those opposing illegal immigration... consider this:

[grinthenbearit]

why else would someone risk their life crossing the barin deserts for less than minimum wage and no benefits in the U.S.?

The numbers are very high of dead illegal aliens in the desert from dehydration!

[xblackdogx]

why else would someone risk their life crossing the barin deserts for less than minimum wage and no benefits in the U.S.?

The numbers are very high of dead illegal aliens in the desert from dehydration!

why would someone bring something up that is irrelevant.
and the answer is b/c they feel it is worse for them where they are coming from... duh

why do they think is better is the real question. the American Dream is an illusion that is rarely attainable which is so widely mentioned that it is the envy of all foreign countries dealing with instabilities.

[Jeff Spicoli]

the MAJORITY of them are not convicts. once illegally getting into the country they fear doing things illegal b/c they will get arrested or deported [the workers].

They are convicts the second they come into this country illegally. Therefor, ALL of them are convicts. happy saturday, get high

[xblackdogx]

They are convicts the second they come into this country illegally. Therefor, ALL of them are convicts. happy saturday, get high

yea, i implied that by saying once coming into the country illegally they stop doing illegal behavioral things b/c of fear of getting caught :thumbsup:

and having that as your arguement is ridiculous, need not mention the fact that you probably have nothing to say about the ORIGINAL statement i made

[rhino44]

yea, i implied that by saying once coming into the country illegally they stop doing illegal behavioral things b/c of fear of getting caught :thumbsup:

and having that as your arguement is ridiculous, need not mention the fact that you probably have nothing to say about the ORIGINAL statement i made

thats laughable. to imply that as soon as these illegals get over they are afraid to commit crimes is absurd. in my city alone crime has risen exponentially because of these illegal immigrants. home invasions, robberries and murder are all on the rise inpart because so many of these immigrants totally disregard our laws and our citizens

also it makes me sick how so many of them dont even want to make an effort to learn english or adapt to an american society. there are neighberhoods that have been overrun by these immigrants where nobody speaks english. they have brought the standard of living down for everybody nearby and forced many to move do to this.

sure its great to be proud of where your from. but your not there anymore. please learn how to adapt. i dont give a fuck if food goes up 200 percent. i want a decent living standard and imo all these illegals bring it down.

[pabloescobar209]

Illegal immigrants employ jobs such as restaurants, lawn service, construction, agriculture, and hotels. Let's say business owners are punished for hiring illegal workers (getting paid 5-6). They all have to hire native-born or legal immigrants on the books which they pay (10-12, which actually costs 15-17/hr b/c of taxes the companies pay for each worker).

Now think about the hundreds of thousands of jobs, and see how they effect the the profits of ALL restaurants (pizza to steak joints), lawn service (cutting grass or removing trees), construction (of houses, businesses), agriculture (apples to avocados), and hotels (holiday in to the hyatt).... they all would have to pay over 10 dollars more for EACH worker, how do you think they will pay? higher prices to consumers!

We are shooting ourselves in the foot not letting them work here. Extreme inflation along with regular wages staying the same is bad news for everyone. Who is going to be happy when we cannot go one day without at least one product being produced or served by illegal immigrants, and now pay a much higher price for it while you're still making the same as last year.

No it's more like we have been shooting ourselves in the foot for letting them come here for so long, because in doing so they have driven down or kept the cost the same to do the same work for the past 30-40 years. yes it is true that onsumer prices will rise drastically but that will only get worse the longer they stay and work, because at some point they will all get deported, or laws will become strict enough for them to be unable to find work. The fact is that if they would ahve never came here all the companies that expolit them would ahve had to either go out of business or keep up with the times and technology to be able to still pay US workers decent money, and turn a profit thmselves, but this didnt happen and now look.

[bobbyhardcore]

I fully agree with you there mate, and im from the UK and if all illegal immigrants, or legal immigrants, where to have stopped working in Maggie Thatchers era, then our economy would have stopped and hell would have broken loose. SO they are beneficial, but are they actually beneficial when they enter our company illegally, are a drain on our resources in benefits etc, taking up housing, begging etc. I am all for helping people, as im no american, lol just jokin , but i think our governments need to look after us a bit more, i hate the idea of us becoming a nanny state and i want to do everything to prevent this but i don't think it's in revolution, it's in changing the views of the government in order to help us out, to benefit us. So when you say that to those opposing illegal immigrants you gta think about those that actually live in the country, by all means immigrants that are legal i have no problem with, but if theyre in my country and taking up jobs, and i need a job, or my mates need jobs, or theirs a girl been murdered and it's on the second page of the newspaper where on the front page it's 5 more illegal immigrants coming in through the channel tunnel from france, i get pissed off.

Cheers

Bob

[Shelbay]

Why do illegals not even make the attempt to learn english? And if they love America so much..why are they sending billions back to Mexico? The ones I know around here will not even make an attempt to learn english..and its not a good thing for the children. I was in the drug store (yes a real one) waiting in line to pick up my order..in front of me was a obviously illegal couple with three children..they had medicine being explained to them by the pharmacist on the different dosages for the children..they could not speak a word of english! Didn't have a clue on how to give the right dosage to their children..made me so sad. Then their son..he looked like he was maybe 7 or 8 he comes over and starts translating for his parents..that made me so proud of him..but ashamed of his parents..make them at least learn english if they stay here..it should be a requirement to speak english before becoming a citizen.

[j0k3r]

They are convicts the second they come into this country illegally. Therefor, ALL of them are convicts. happy saturday, get high

your dumb ass imigrated to so I wouldnt be talkin shit. If your ansestors wouldnt of came over a long time ago you wouldn't be livin here. All you guys did was steal land from us mexicans and the native americans.:cursing:

[chisme]

wish my country wouldnt let all the cunts in.

fuck tony blair