Quote Originally Posted by Kid Panda
Hey man, we are on the same page.
But I think that you are just a bit more patriotic than I am.
I agree with everything you are saying except that I think we should continue to do business with them as people, we just need to be more tolerant of other societies and cultures.
On top of that, I want you to know that I don't own a car, and I'm building up on some property that I will live on alternative energy (solar, wind, water) well water, and organically grown crops. So more power to us tree huggers.
I agree we messed up, but it was our own intolerance that started the whole thing anyway. Yeah, they do things very differently over there. But they've been doing it for over 1000 years and they seemed to be comfortable with the way they lived. As in didn't ask for assitance, other than israel, but nobody in the UN would help them because they were jewish, so we helped them, but look wat that dd. (still not saying it's a bad thing, maybe a necessary evil?)
Just some thoughts.
The Kid
I don't own a car, either. Of course, this is easier in NYC than most places.

I don't really care how they differently they "do things" in the middle east - as long as they keep their religion out of our business. The Muslims hate freedom and democracy. We cannot force a fusion of democracy and their brand of religious lunacy on them - It will never work, and Iraq is a perfect example.

We shouldn't have involved ourselves in the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. The Soviets were not nearly as much a threat to us as the religious nuts made them out to be.

As long as we have retarded religious leaders running this country, from Jimmy Carter to G.W. Bush, we're not going to get it straightened out.