Cabinet, 1000W Hydro-DWC SCRoG White Widow

[BlazeIdo]

I just looked at the GH site and figured out the difference between their nutrients and supplements (a lot clearer now). So im guessing that the floralicous grow and bloom plus the foxfarm big bloom isn't going to be sufficient by itself. Also if grown from seed in DWC does starting the GH flora 3-series nutrients at half the recommended clone level plus the floralicous grow at half its recommended level once I hit the 4th set of true leaves sound about right. Should anything be added to the RO water to make up for lost minerals? PH is 5.6 (no TDS yet, will have when nutes are added). This information took me a while to compile, so I was just runnin ii by you guys to make sure it was all up to parr.

[BlazeIdo]

oh yea, and i've been meaning to ask if its safe to post this kind of stuff here?

[turtle420]

water temp should be no higher than 75 degrees...
preferably even cooler.. like 70-72 farenheit..

: )
iloveyou

Yes... this is true... but I'm working on it. I plan on doing the "cheap rez cooler" thing... a small PC fan on a 90degree PVC elbow, blowing air into your rez. Supposedly, this will work wonders...

Let's see if I can do it during this weekend.

....<><>.... Thanks gK....

I just looked at the GH site and figured out the difference between their nutrients and supplements (a lot clearer now). So im guessing that the floralicous grow and bloom plus the foxfarm big bloom isn't going to be sufficient by itself. Also if grown from seed in DWC does starting the GH flora 3-series nutrients at half the recommended clone level plus the floralicous grow at half its recommended level once I hit the 4th set of true leaves sound about right. Should anything be added to the RO water to make up for lost minerals? PH is 5.6 (no TDS yet, will have when nutes are added). This information took me a while to compile, so I was just runnin ii by you guys to make sure it was all up to parr.

Blaze, I don't have the experience to tell you if it'll work or not (the FoxFarm)... right now, this is my 1st grow... I'm just following directions and suggestions.

I've found that it's better to underfert your plants, than to risk over fertilizing them. I still haven't had such luck and overferted one of my girls... althought I was close... very close... two or three fan leaves are SUPER dark green (signs of overfert).

RO water... definitely, you need to add CalMag PLUS. The RO process removes, basically, everything. You need to add those trace minerals back. CalMag PLUS :thumbsup:

The pH of 5.6 sounds good... I'm keeping it around 5.80 or something like that... there's a nifty chart in the FAQs, and on the second post of this thread. Save it if you can to your computer.

oh yea, and i've been meaning to ask if its safe to post this kind of stuff here?

Well, it's all relative. Safe compared to.... ???....

Much of the safety depends on yourself. Don't do dumb stuff online. Don't say where you're from. Don't give out your addy. Don't post your Yahoo!, gMail, Hotmail, etc. eMail addresses. Post your HushMail address only (or the equivalent). Whenever you're communicating or something, use different eMails for each case... don't use your same hushmail addy for eBay, as, you'll be linking both your real name/addy with that hushmail addy.

Is it possible that the feds, FBI, NSA, etc. are getting all this, and following people? Well, yes.

But, you got to put it in context... I don't think they'll go after two plants inside a closet. Maybe a 550 plant grow... but two plants? A newb? Couple of ounces? I don't think they're so much inclined.

That's it, basically for safety.

Peace out gK and bIdo,

-turtle420
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[Krogith]

idk if anyone said this yet but that reflective sheeting will cause hot spots it would be best for maxx Light to use a Flat white mylar/plastic or paint a flat surface with Flat/satin White Paint White will reflect the light spectrum much more effenctly:smokin: Also clear tubbing will acctract the grown of algee try and get some Blue or Black tubeing ( kick ass set up tho nice job)

[turtle420]

Hello again,

Almost forgot...

My clones... the clones I got for my new mother plants... one of them has heavily wilted. I didn't water yesterday, when I should have (didn't open the mother cab).

Here's my QUESTION:::
What ferts should I be giving them?

I'm using Schlutz Cactus Juice, which is (if I remember right), 2-7-7. I don't want her to want to flower. Should I use the bat guano I have? I think it's 11-2-3 or something like that. Ughhh... guano smell... ughh...

The situation is: They're mother plants. Want to keep them short and sweet. Maybe 3-4 cuttings every 1-2 months.

I'll give an update tomorrow on how this specific clone is doing... and I'll post a picture of the other one, as it's in better shape than the one you're seeing.

Thanks for the help, take much care everybody,

-turtle420
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[Krogith]

H202 telling you might save that dehydragnated one pour that on there like hella water and oxygen try save it. Zandor right you need bigger baskets for your roots. Your plants do not need P2O5 right now and giveing it to it will not make it bud it will only bud due to light cycle change 12/12

[turtle420]

idk if anyone said this yet but that reflective sheeting will cause hot spots it would be best for maxx Light to use a Flat white mylar/plastic or paint a flat surface with Flat/satin White Paint White will reflect the light spectrum much more effenctly:smokin: Also clear tubbing will acctract the grown of algee try and get some Blue or Black tubeing ( kick ass set up tho nice job)

Thanks for the input Krogith...

That reflective material is Mylar... not aluminum foil. I'm not worring much about hotspots created by Mylar... if any.

Here's the clear response on why Mylar is a better option than white paint:
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=37730

Well lets think about this a second. I use only Mylar 2 mil my self and here’s why.

One standard HPS bulb puts out 140,000 Lumens. If White paint reflects 86% light you only end up with 120,400 lumens reflected. Sidelight is as important as top light but all to much people forget it all together. You lose 19,600 lumens that is absorbed by the paint.

With Mylar you reflect back 98% of the light that hits it. So the same 140,000 lumens HPS light as before you only lose 2800 lumens so you get 137,200 lumens reflecting back. That’s like adding a 150w HPS light for free. If you have more lights like I do then it ads up even more. With 6 1000 watt HPS light and Mylar you get another 100,800 lumens of light just for using Mylar. That’s like the 7th light of 1000 watts is free.

That’s why you should use Mylar It’s all in the math.

As to the clear tubbing: Yes, you're right. I know. I covered it with aluminum foil (wow! Is this the foil you're reffering to?) to keep the light out. I'll try and get the the black tubing for the future...

Thanks for the props on the cabinet Krogith... thanks for posting.

Best to you,

-turtle420
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[turtle420]

H202 telling you might save that dehydragnated one pour that on there like hella water and oxygen try save it. Zandor right you need bigger baskets for your roots. Your plants do not need P2O5 right now and giveing it to it will not make it bud it will only bud due to light cycle change 12/12

Hmmm... thanks! I'll try that H2O2 thing... I'll do a search here to see what I come up with (recepies).

As to my plants needing "P2O5"? What? What's P2O5?

Thanks for the help Krogith!

[BlazeIdo]

Turtle, What form does that calmag plus come in? I have seen it in pill form mostly. What kind and how much should be used per gallon of water?

[turtle420]

Turtle, What form does that calmag plus come in? I have seen it in pill form mostly. What kind and how much should be used per gallon of water?

Here's what I've got:
http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc....EGCM32&eq=&Tp=

I think that the CalMag you've seen in pill form, is supplements for the human body.... again, I think... was that from an eBay search?
I think there's a vitamin pill for humans on eBay... called CalMag.

But anyways, you've got your link.... that's the stuff we want for out plants.

I personally don't have any negative experiences from lack of those minerals, but before I started, I read long ago LateWood, Zandor, gK, etc. giving props to CalMag PLUS.... so, I'll take their word for it without hesitation.

CONCENTRATIONS: I don't have the bottle with me, but I really don't have an idea how much is it. I don't remember. I just follow directions. It isn't that much per gallon... but I don't remember. I'll have that number for you later...

Take much care bIdo,

-turtle420
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