Okay, so Cleve, I guess you're right. It just annoys me, the fact that it's almost like you shouldn't post anything that isn't innuendo or stuff like "lol hahaha lol hahahaha" all the way through. I'm trying to avoid doing it myself, but if people come here for the first time, and see that all over the boards, they won't get much of a good impression, you know? At least, I know I wouldn't. It just seems the boards are becomming, if not already, too "cliqueish" and that to get any kind of mutual respect and your threads taken seriously, you have to get to know the right people, and to do that you have to take part in all the bullshit spam threads, you know? Anyway, i'm sorry, that's just the way I see it, and I don't mean it as a personal insult to anyone imparticular.