My mom is trying to convert me to Christianity!

[ADaisyChain]

battles of the engorged egos.

fake it for your mom.

[JunkYard]

battles of the engorged egos.

fake it for your mom.

ego >noun (pl. egos) 1 a person's sense of self-esteem or self-importance. 2Psychoanalysis the part of the mind that mediates between the conscious and the unconscious and is responsible for the interpretation of reality and the development of a sense of self.

I like having a voice when it comes to matters of faith, and personal belief. I also think ego is absolutely nescessary when it comes to humans attempting to understand such things. Anyone who claims to have tamed the 'ego' are lying to themselves, or they simply don't care about the matters of life on this earth.

I'm not sure where 'engorged' came from in your analysis of this discussion, but I will say that ego is nescessary to give us a voice, and to establish a personal 'self worth', and/or seat in the great scheme of life.

I won't agree with mother, or fake it just to make her happy. I have my own views, (Some very strong) but I do have an open mind, and I'm quite willing (If not eager) to understand the views of others. Hence, the reason for this discussion.

Btw, I'm still discussing this issue with my mum,

[ADaisyChain]

lol. make a difference.

[JunkYard]

lol. make a difference.

So you don't think you make a difference one way or the other? Every action bears a consequece, ADaisyChain. Even the small ones that seem unsubstantial. I do my part by making a difference in my sons life, and by being true to what I believe.

The world won't change overnight, nor do I expect it to. In all honesty, I believe it will take ages to create the world of my dreams. I certainly won't make it happen alone. Jesus couldn't do it alone, why would my efforts be any different?

What I'm saying is we 'all' can do our part to make the world a better place for 'future' generations...Simply by taking on a caring, loving attitude towards creation, and towards those who share this world with us. Each individual has the power to be a blessing in the lives of others. Surely you won't disagree with this?

Yes, I make a difference in life. Albeit not a substantial one, but who's to say my son won't follow behind me, and do the same?

Btw, I love you!

Sorry Knowm, I just like the way to roll, brother.

[robert42]

No one can ever tell someone else their belief is wrong or not true

Believe in what u wanna believe in the same way u Do what u think is right

Wether it be rastarafism, catholic or buddhist ur decision is yours.

And whats to say u cant believe in more than one god?

[Great Spirit]

The Bible is a SPIRITUAL book and you have to read it spiritually to truly understand it. Add the Quran, Rig Vedas, Nag Hammadi codices to your library collection to! They are all of equal status and none is better then the other. Did you know that the Gospel of Thomas predates the canonical gospels, before Mark? Some consider the Gospel of Thomas to be the actual "Q" source that Mark, Matthew, and Luke drew their sources from.

The Christianity that is taught today is the result of the Pauline letters...not Jesus. Remember that during the first century or 2 of Christianity, there were different views and sects. Why do you think the monks in Egypt saved the manuscripts we now call the Nag Hammadi Library? When the organized Catholic Church came to power, they considered such writings as heresy.

Yes there are contradictions in the Bible. The fundementalists believe that it is without error...but since there are, there whole VIEW of their faith shatters. Thank god because I am so much happier and understand so much more after I left the Church. I don't need to give $20 to the Church for a new vacation Bible school swimming pool. Give it to the poor!!

When Jesus meant by ressurection, it was spiritual...not physical. Remember...you must be BORN AGAIN. You ressurect in this life...then die. You need to get away from the "physical" meanings and embrace the spirit...as true worshippers worship the Father in spirit and in truth.

[Kokujin X]

I believe the ressurection of Jesus was as literal and physical as it can get. His ressurection was his assurance of the power of the LORD. None of us can ressurect people so this is surly a symbol of Gods power. Jesus was also ressrected in a perfect human body, like the ones believers will recive at rapture. If Jesus just died and that was it, surly his disciples and followers would call him a liar and not believe him anymore. Without this event, christianity would have been shot down a lot sooner.

[JunkYard]

No one can ever tell someone else their belief is wrong or not true

Believe in what u wanna believe in the same way u Do what u think is right

Wether it be rastarafism, catholic or buddhist ur decision is yours.

And whats to say u cant believe in more than one god?

I agree whole heartedly. Although, I've been guilty of condeming Christians (Among others) because I disagree with their idea of 'salvation'. no one 'honestly' knows the absolute 'truth'. Any religion 'could' be right, just as any religion could be wrong. I guess it all comes down to conviction, and personal belief...

We should all be honest with ourselves, and accept that others may very well be the ones who got it right! I highly disagree with religious violence, though!

I'm still somewhat convicted in my own beliefs, and yes, they are derived from biblical texts, as well as from the inner most places of my heart, and mind...

[JunkYard]

The Bible is a SPIRITUAL book and you have to read it spiritually to truly understand it. Add the Quran, Rig Vedas, Nag Hammadi codices to your library collection to! They are all of equal status and none is better then the other. Did you know that the Gospel of Thomas predates the canonical gospels, before Mark? Some consider the Gospel of Thomas to be the actual "Q" source that Mark, Matthew, and Luke drew their sources from.

The Christianity that is taught today is the result of the Pauline letters...not Jesus. Remember that during the first century or 2 of Christianity, there were different views and sects. Why do you think the monks in Egypt saved the manuscripts we now call the Nag Hammadi Library? When the organized Catholic Church came to power, they considered such writings as heresy.

Yes there are contradictions in the Bible. The fundementalists believe that it is without error...but since there are, there whole VIEW of their faith shatters. Thank god because I am so much happier and understand so much more after I left the Church. I don't need to give $20 to the Church for a new vacation Bible school swimming pool. Give it to the poor!!

When Jesus meant by ressurection, it was spiritual...not physical. Remember...you must be BORN AGAIN. You ressurect in this life...then die. You need to get away from the "physical" meanings and embrace the spirit...as true worshippers worship the Father in spirit and in truth.

There are many books left out of the Bible, Thomas being one of them. I seem to remember reading parts of his gospel on line, although I don't remember where I found it.

I prefer to take a hands on approach when discerning biblical texts. I do agree that much of it has to do with spirit, though. I think I may even agree with your take on the ressurection. Our ressurection, or second birth comes when we take on the spirit of God, (Which I believe is love) or in other words...when we become born again. I think Jesus set a fair example of what it means to be born of spirit.

I choose not to 'worship' as I don't think that God demands it, but I will continue to honor God, creation, Jesus, love, forgiveness, responsibility, and all thats been given for me to endure.

I think that if God exists at all, he would rather us respect him w/o demand...

I disagree with fearing him even in the least....

Anyone have a take on what it means in the book of Proverbs when Soloman says that "The fear of the Lord is the begining of wisdom"?

Some say that fear means 'respect', but true respect doesn't come from fear, imo. It comes from adoration, and it is earned...

It cannot be demanded!

Btw, my mother has crossed over, and is now in almost full agreement with me...

Imagine that!

[ADaisyChain]

wow, i guess i never saw it that way. you truly are a better man then i junkyard.

btw did you see the latest degrassi?