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She came over last night, and we dicussed what it meant to be a Christian, and how she thought I was wrong for denying Christianity.

I told her that I would gladly join the flock if she, or anyone else could convince me it was the right thing to do. I'm fairly open minded, and Christianity along with a number of other spiritual schools of thought have been on my mind for ages.

I have several Bibles, along with many other books on other types of spiritual beliefs. Kabbala, paganism, mormanism, etc...

None of them has convinced me to join up, and sign on the dotted line! I do want to talk about christianity, though. I realize that my mother wants the best for me, but I have reservations about her belief, and I hold some strong moral disagreement when it comes to the christian walk of life.

Anyone care to help out what my mother calls a "lost soul"?

Tell me about atonement, and the concept behind giving your sins to Jesus...

Any Christians up for some civil discussion, and/or debate? I promise that I'll keep an open mind.

I'm doing this for my mother, btw...
Firstly; what moral disagreements do you have with the christian walk of life?

Secondly; only God can truley convince you of anything in this sense. Pls don't ever "join a religion", but rather accept truth as it comes (and it may come in the form of a religion - personally it has for me) Now if you are concidering christianity, the best thing to do is to pray and ask God to show you if it's right or not. After that it's important that you read and educate yourself. In my case the more I read and prayed, the more I understood what the bible was actually talking about, and it's only ever grown since.

Btw, the christian "walk of life" is exactly what Christ did. In fact it's modeled after him, therefore read what Jesus did and who he was, not what "christians" are like or what the church does, because in my heart I know the church, as it now stands, does nothing but hide in its building. Christ was a healer; a medicine for the sick - the kindness and love in the world...and that's what he asks us to be.

The concept of Jesus forgivign sins is somethign I had a hard time with until I was more educated in the details. What christ was, was a new covenant from God for mankind. First God gave us the law (old testiment), not because he wanted us to follow it, but because he wanted us to see that we could never follow it by any human effort. God has called the law a "stumbling stone"; something for us to trip over, in order to show us what we were supposed to be like, and what is now (becuase of sin) unreachable by our human effort. As it now stands we are not perfect; we are born to SIN. Bottom line. Christ, who was concieved by the Holy Spirit, was God's child not becuase of direct lineage, but out of spiritual harmony. Jesus was God's child much like Adam was God's child before he fell into sin. That's why Jesus is called the second Adam. When Jesus lived, he lived as we were all intended to live: in direct contact and relationship with God. Jesus was God in a way we could comprehend. We can't comprehend God, and therefore none of us can Know Him, but we can comprehend Jesus because Jesus was a man. We now, through faith in Jesus, can know and understand God - we can hear God in our hearts.

God had to sacrifice Jesus because of sin. Once sin entered the world, death entered it. Jesus has told us that our sins are forgiven if we believe in God's sacrifice. And when we ask Jesus into our hearts, he becomes our heart and our mind (if we chose to let him of course). It is only because you have invited God to be inside you that you will be able to change, with God's help. Because of our sin, we must die, but because Jesus, who is God's son, died for us, God raised up again. If we believe this than Jesus is alive inside us; his Holy Spirit is now what we have, rather than our own spirit of sinful nature, God does the same for us: we may find hope in our faith, much like in the Old Testiment where it is written "Abraham believed in God, and so God credited it to him as righteous". God asks only for our faith if we are to know him.

sorry, this is a little sloppy but hopefully it gives you a clearer perseption of why Jesus's dying was so important.
Pyramidsonmars Reviewed by Pyramidsonmars on . My mom is trying to convert me to Christianity! She came over last night, and we dicussed what it meant to be a Christian, and how she thought I was wrong for denying Christianity. I told her that I would gladly join the flock if she, or anyone else could convince me it was the right thing to do. I'm fairly open minded, and Christianity along with a number of other spiritual schools of thought have been on my mind for ages. I have several Bibles, along with many other books on other types of spiritual beliefs. Kabbala, paganism, Rating: 5