My mom is trying to convert me to Christianity!

[slipknotpsycho]

i don't believe in a god. i think of it from logics. god is everywhere, god is everything.. correct? then wouldn't he of left proof of his existance in one way or another, at some point in the infinite of his 'lifetime'? no you say? why's that? oh right.. becasue he is beyond this plane of existance, he is beyond the comprehension level a mortal has... so then, how did the messangers get the messages from him? if he is totally beyond our comprehension level, how could anyone possibly comprehend his messages? with all that said, how do you know that these 'messangers' weren't just lunatics... think about it, today if you say you talk to god and get messages from him, what is everyone's first response? "that mother fucker is crazy."

christians have excuses for everything, but they don't have an excuse for this.. if god is perfect, and everything is his will, and everything is him, and he is everything, why do you have to come up with so many excuses? this is a lie thousands of years in the making.. nothing more... and as time goes on and on, it's unraveling faster and faster, i survive on this knowledge, some day, everything will come crashing down, some day it will either be proved it was a lie, or someday there will just be too many holes to fill...

another question i have, if god has his will, and it will not be changed, not for mortal, not for anything, why pray? christianity = contradiction.

[JunkYard]

wow, i guess i never saw it that way. you truly are a better man then i junkyard.

btw did you see the latest degrassi?

Certainly not better, lol! (Was that a joke?) I think my thought process 'may' be a little different than most? Honestly, we're all in this life together...we may as well make the best of it...

You know, I look back at memorable moments, and I can't help but think about Rodney King. He was beat down unjustly by the po po, and people stood up, and started riots, and did violent acts because the cops involved got off the hook.

I'll never forget what Rodeny King says on camara. He was a stand up guy, and his character is an amazing testimony, imo.

He says:

"Can't we all just get along"? (Priceless)

Btw, is degrassi a show? If so, I've not seen it...

It's Canadian, correct?

[JunkYard]

i don't believe in a god. i think of it from logics. god is everywhere, god is everything.. correct? then wouldn't he of left proof of his existance in one way or another, at some point in the infinite of his 'lifetime'? no you say? why's that? oh right.. becasue he is beyond this plane of existance, he is beyond the comprehension level a mortal has... so then, how did the messangers get the messages from him? if he is totally beyond our comprehension level, how could anyone possibly comprehend his messages? with all that said, how do you know that these 'messangers' weren't just lunatics... think about it, today if you say you talk to god and get messages from him, what is everyone's first response? "that mother fucker is crazy."

christians have excuses for everything, but they don't have an excuse for this.. if god is perfect, and everything is his will, and everything is him, and he is everything, why do you have to come up with so many excuses? this is a lie thousands of years in the making.. nothing more... and as time goes on and on, it's unraveling faster and faster, i survive on this knowledge, some day, everything will come crashing down, some day it will either be proved it was a lie, or someday there will just be too many holes to fill...

another question i have, if god has his will, and it will not be changed, not for mortal, not for anything, why pray? christianity = contradiction.

Many people don't believe in God. You see, there is this stirring question that plagues many:

"Who made who"?

We may never know, man. I think it is futile to even attmpt to prove Gods existence, and vice versa. He very well may not exist at all, but we do have life, the earth, the air, the waters, etc...

We 'ARE' the dominant species on this planet, and we are in control of the future of mankind, as well as what many call 'creation'. (We are in effect Kings)

It's is just a matter of putting two and two together, man...

Many Atheist agree with my views. (Many don't) Although, they deny the existence of God, which in my mind, doesn't matter in the least, when you honor what we have...Wether it was given by God, or wether it is a product of the 'big bang'...

Peace,

[JunkYard]

â??Edenâ??

Creations wonder birthed
of a virginal mass
within this darkened void
life was born.

Mother earth
is but the hand of God
creating a paradise
even unto this day...

Existing to nurture mankind

The earth, the waters
the air, and life.
Dominion granted
over all these things.

A king of sorts
weâ??re living
within this
mighty realm...

Yes, in Eden we surly dwell.

[F L E S H]

No one can ever tell someone else their belief is wrong or not true

Believe in what u wanna believe in the same way u Do what u think is right

Wether it be rastarafism, catholic or buddhist ur decision is yours.

And whats to say u cant believe in more than one god?

This is false, and it is this way of thinking that will lead to the end of civilization.

Certain beliefs are blatantly wrong, no matter how you look at them. For me, I like to point out that all religious beliefs are pretty much wrong.

Some muslims think that if they blow themselves and kill as many "enemies" as possible, they will go straight to heaven and enjoy some goodies. Now, by following the philosophy that "every belief has its own validity," how are we supposed to stop people from blowing themselves up in the name of Allah? Also, you'll never see someone blowing themselves up in the name of Krishna or Zoroaster. This leads to my point, that not only is it OK to tell muslims they're wrong to think that blowing up people is good, but that we have an OBLIGATION to do so.

Some beliefs are wrong, others are right. It is utopian to think that all beliefs are right. If I believed the sky was pink, I'm sure all of you would rush to point out that no, it's not pink, it's blue. Well, I like to tell people, especially Christians, Jews and Muslims, that their beliefs are wrong, because they are, no matter how you turn them around. This is called REALISM. You don't need religion to tell you that murder is wrong (in fact most say that it's ok under certain circumstances...) or that stealing is wrong, these are statements that are simply TRUE. Just as you can have physical facts that are always true, i.e. the sky is blue, there is no reason that you cannot have ethical facts that are always true, i.e. killing people is wrong.

In the end, there is simply no reason for Religion to exist anymore. This does not mean that people can't be spiritual, because there are still many aspects of our lives and bodies that are mysterious... but there's nothing supernatural or metaphysical about them.

[F L E S H]

Many people don't believe in God. You see, there is this stirring question that plagues many:

"Who made who"?

We may never know, man. I think it is futile to even attmpt to prove Gods existence, and vice versa. He very well may not exist at all, but we do have life, the earth, the air, the waters, etc...

We 'ARE' the dominant species on this planet, and we are in control of the future of mankind, as well as what many call 'creation'. (We are in effect Kings)

It's is just a matter of putting two and two together, man...

Many Atheist agree with my views. (Many don't) Although, they deny the existence of God, which in my mind, doesn't matter in the least, when you honor what we have...Wether it was given by God, or wether it is a product of the 'big bang'...

Peace,

JunkYard, we were not made in God's image, God was made in OUR image.... That is another Truth.

[JunkYard]

^^Prove it my friend, and I will fully submit to this particular concept of 'truth'^^

Personally, I don't think it matters at all...

[F L E S H]

^^Prove it my friend, and I will fully submit to this particular concept of 'truth'^^

Personally, I don't think it matters at all...

But it does matter... because a lot of believers kill believers of other faiths because they think that's what their god wants, when in reality it's not what God wants, it's what THEY want.

And the proof is simple: humans wrote the Bible, not God. Humans created Religion, not God. Humans created laws and ethics, not God. Humans created Good and Evil, not God.

We are, in fact, God. We give him all the attributes we see in ourselves. Not only that, we made God into an especially fickle, angry, and most importantly jealous human.

[JunkYard]

But it does matter... because a lot of believers kill believers of other faiths because they think that's what their god wants, when in reality it's not what God wants, it's what THEY want.

Agreed, but this has more to do with ones perception of what God wants from his followers...not what he's made of, or what we're made of, if in his image. It doesn't matter in the sense this idea could go either way w/o ever knowing the 'truth' about wether we created God, or wether he created us.

And the proof is simple: humans wrote the Bible, not God. Humans created Religion, not God. Humans created laws and ethics, not God. Humans created Good and Evil, not God.

This actually 'proves' nothing, man, lol! The fact is that we don't know if God exists at all, and if he does exist, we don't know if he created us in his image or not. It is not proven, nor can it be proven. We can only have personal thoughts, and/or convictions about the actual reality of of it all.

We are, in fact, God. We give him all the attributes we see in ourselves. Not only that, we made God into an especially fickle, angry, and most importantly jealous human.

I understand that this is your take on it, but many will disagree with your sentiments. Niether view can be 'proven' right, or wrong, so your truth falls short of being an actual 'truth'.

Not to be a smart ass, but I thought you claimed to be a realist . . . A 'critical' thinker? I'm afraid you may be letting your counterparts down by claiming you 'know' the truth about God, when in reality, all you 'know' is your personal views on the matter...

[JunkYard]

Actually, I was trying to be a 'smart ass', lol!

Sorry bro, It was uncalled for...