I can't vouch for the space cadets or PEP pills or any of that stuff because i've never used them, but Hempnbass said they worked great when he took double the recommended dose. I'm not into pills or anything but if you're interested you should definetely read Hempnbass's earlier post about their effects or PM him for more info. I'm a little sketched out because they don't list the ingredients... who knows whats in that.