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    #21
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    Schizophrenia

    YOU ONLY CAUSE SCHIZOPHRENIA IF ITS GENETIC

    and it IS genetic, i have ALOT of college textbooks that say im right
    \"The most interesting place you can ever travel is inside your own head. And if you\'ve never even tried any drugs, then you\'re always staying home.\" -Bill Maher

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    #22
    Senior Member

    Schizophrenia

    ask pureevil

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    #23
    Senior Member

    Schizophrenia

    * A very large study of 50,465 Swedish army conscripts determined their cannabis use at age 18 and followed those individuals for the next 15 years. Recruits who had tried cannabis by age 18 had 2.4 times the risk of being diagnosed with schizophrenia in the following 15 years than those who had never used cannabis. The risk increased if the conscript used greater quantities of cannabis

    However, of the conscripts who developed schizophrenia:

    * Most had never used cannabis

    and

    * Only 7.7 per cent were heavy cannabis users

    * Therefore, cannabis use is only one possible factor contributing to an increased risk of developing schizophrenia or other psychosis. This is especially true when one considers that most people who develop a psychosis have never used cannabis

    * In addition, cannabis use at age 18 might be a consequence of emerging psychosis (that is, psychosis precedes cannabis use, not vice versa)
    http://www.health.vic.gov.au/drugser...s/cannabis.htm

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    #24
    Senior Member

    Schizophrenia

    I'll bet they all ate bread at one point, too.

    Where's my report about bread being as present as Cannabis in these studies.

    Maybe, this whole time, it was bread.

    Its pulling straws. Marijuana initiatives are scary, and whatever disorders can be .00000000000000001% linked to Cannabis use will be made public to combat anything positive that can be said about it.

    With the actual facts, Cannabis seems no more a factor in the studies than the fact that they probably all slept laying down.

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    #25
    Senior Member

    Schizophrenia

    Being a schizo is fun, so smoke up.

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    #26
    Senior Member

    Schizophrenia

    I don't believe there's a causative link between weed and schizophrenia. What I do think is that perhaps people with developing schizophrenia or active schizophrenia may tend to self-medicate at a higher level than others, which could account for the link between schizophrenics and grass use. That is, they feel the disorientation and disorganized thoughts coming on and try to change that with weed and other substances. We know this is true for folks with bipolar disorder, who use psychoactive drugs and alcohol at a much higher rate, often for years, before they're officially diagnosed with bipolar disorder.
    [SIZE=\"4\"]\"That best portion of a good man\'s life: his little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and love.\"[/SIZE]
    [align=center]William Wordsworth, English poet (1770 - 1850)[/align]

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    #27
    Senior Member

    Schizophrenia

    Quote Originally Posted by miv
    Schizophrenia is not an objectively determinable fact. There is no test for schizophrenia. It cannot be proved or disproved.

    Schizophrenia is an attribution, like ugliness. Your are schizophrenic when a psychiatrist decides that you are schizophrenic. Claims that cannabis causes schizophrenia are politically correct and will ensure researchers funds, but they can have no scientific basis, because science deals with demonstrable facts, not attributions.

    Of course cannabis is a psychoactive substance. That's why people use it. Like all psychoactive substances, there is risk involved in its use. If we want to eliminate risks, we should start by prohibiting automobiles. Many more people are killed or permanently maimed from automobiles than from cannabis (which doesn't kill anybody).

    If I may make a few corrections...
    There are "tests" to see if someone is schizophrenic. That is what the DSM-IV is all about, a list of criteria one has to meet. You can also can see that someone is schizophrenic through the use of PET scans. PET scans indicate brain activity, shown by color coded pixels. Red and Orange colors indicate extreme activity. In schizophrenics, there are red and orange colors that show up in the auditory section of the brain. Also, a friend of mine did develop Drug-Induced Schizophrenia from smoking weed (was hospitalized in a mental institution). He was a fiend with it and it was really unfortunate because he used to be smart, an honors student, good-looking kid. Obviously this is a rare occurance and I don't think it's any reason to go around saying we shouldn't be smoking weed, but I thought I'd contribute a little of my knowledge on the subject.

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    #28
    Junior Member

    Schizophrenia

    grass actually cures schizophrenia, and is well proved in various articles in ayurveda and natural cure theraphy.

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    #29
    Senior Member

    Schizophrenia

    if i may....

    dsm is not a test of any kind, it is solely criteria listings and is completely subjective..pet scans are used, but not a sole determining factor..pet scans for schizophrenia diagnosis are used to trace dopamine uptake at the d1, d3, and d4 receptors, which is shown by activity in the striatum and prefrontal cortex..it isnt a measure of the activity but for how checmicals are being processed i guess you could say..plenty of schizophrenics have normal pet scans..like the other post says, there really is no "test"..it isnt like an aids test, or a cholesterol screening..again, it is all subjective..

    i have never heard of marijuana leading to drug induced schizophrenia, as drug induced schizophrenia is caused by dopamine surges, and is something you see mainly in amphetamine addicts (i am NOT saying that was this case)..i would like to read about this, if you can provide any information anywhere..after all, knowledge is power..thanks..

    so, this was just my two cents here..

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    #30
    Senior Member

    Schizophrenia

    Quote Originally Posted by surreys princess
    i would like to read about this, if you can provide any information anywhere..after all, knowledge is power..thanks..

    so, this was just my two cents here..
    Here's my bookmarks:
    http://www.norml.org.nz/article476.html
    http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_health_s...%3fformat=html
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0615075809.htm
    http://cannabis.net/cannschiz.html
    http://www.mth.kcl.ac.uk/~streater/cannabis.html

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