Schizophrenia

[LegallyBlind]

http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevent...zophrenia.html

This is a really interesting article about the use of cannabis increasing your likelyhood of getting schizophrenia.

Tell me what you guys think.

LegallyBlind Reviewed by LegallyBlind on 04-03-2006. Schizophrenia http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevention/cannabis.marijuana.schizophrenia.html This is a really interesting article about the use of cannabis increasing your likelyhood of getting schizophrenia. Tell me what you guys think. Rating: 5

[mrdevious]

Most of the study's seem to, once again, make the link between causation and consistency of use compared to diagnosis. They merely find that more per-capita schizophrenics use cannabis, therefore linking cannabis as a cause of the symptoms, rather than a result (often a means of dealing with it).

Some studies do show that cannabis use (during adolescence, but it's not for kids anyway!) prior to schizophrenia see higher rates of the illness occuring. But, there's no study as to whether a certain personality trait which makes a person more prone to cannabis experimentation is also a trait or mind-set consistant with the developement of schizophrenia. (meaning) For all we know, those with the type of mind who would want to smoke weed, could also be the type of mind more susceptable to getting schizophrenia. Regardless, the studies so far have only shown this consistency in the adolescent state of mental developement.

Also, and this is more a note of common sense than science, people would probably not have ANY problems from weed if we taught society how to use it responsibly and in moderation, rather than smoking 3 times a day 7 days a week, instead of simply punishing all those who oppose the word of government. I have no doubt that using any chemical 10,000 times more than it's meant to be used, is going to have negative reprocussions.

[Hollandica]

I think the probability of me or anybody else normal getting schizophrenia from smoking weed is as large as: 0,0%. Just another thing to tell us how bad marijuana is.

[LIP]

It's bullshit. The government tryed to tell us that it had been proven in Switzerland, but it haddnt, because they had no evidence. If you already have an underlying medical illness cannabis will not bring it out, and it cant create them either. It's bullshit. Kill anyone who says its true.

[toker22]

i smoked up my friend once who doesn't smoke that often and she got higher than i've maybe ever seen anyone and she kept forgetting what was going on and thinking she was dreaming and then "waking up" from the dream and thought she had just been standing/sitting not doing anything, when all the stuff she really had been doing she just thought was a dream, and like the way it manifested itself was kind of like she had different personalities that like didn't remember or know about each other, and i was like woah i wonder if she just smoked herself shcizsophrenic lol, but she was ok obviously, just seemed interesting b/c i've never seen that happen to anyone else, i have read of other people having the whole waking up dream thing but yeah

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

The switzerland experiment with the 50,000 was proven to be lacking in a causal factor (or summat like that) which is basically like the guy with the buddha for an avator sed, you look at "schizo's" then if they smoke weed, that was taken as standard for precipitating some kind of mental illness, also I could take the number of test subjects that own slippers, and create a similar hypothesis.

I've smoked since I was 12, I'm 2 years away from making it out of the adolescent zone, then 10 away from the schizophrenia zone, lets see where this ride's gonna take me, as I have no intention of stopping, if anything smoking more is on the agenda, along with a whole host of psychedelic substances

As for schizophrenia, some say it is an organic brain disease, some say it is a behaviourial thing, precipitated by environmental factors, some say it don't exist, some say some are predisposed to it, I say, people who smoke weed get schizophrenia, ppl who don't get schizophrenia, people who smoke tobacco get cancer, ppl who don't, get cancer, people who don't use drugs can be struck down with a debilitating organic brain disease, ppl who do use them can be aswell, ppl who are insane rock backwards and forwards in a corner while whispering to themselves, ppl who are sane go out and bash ppl's heads in, then bury them, as do some crazy bastards, are you seeing a pattern? Stop trying to predict everything, what a bold statement to actually think you can understand another mind, then tell some1 else what is making them wierd. I could sit here all fucking day and shred everything about the behavioural patterns of the ''insane'', and still some arrogant bastard sitting somewhere, wil be convinced, simply due to his own intuition, that schizophrenia is a brain disease which definitely does exist cuz they've seen some "wierd" ppl. You got an absolute stockpile of information that contradicts it, yet it only exist's because 'You can recognize it when you see it'. All people are different, I can't believe it's that simple, yet ppl don't want to believe it, if they can categorize, that means it's explained and recognized, and the big brains have busted another riddle, ppl talk of 'delusions of grandeur' and other symptons, like the patient not knowing who he/she is, well, who r u? what is it ure staring thru now? whats the colour orange? if you dropped a car, and a lighter at equal heights, which one would drop first? it's ok if you don't know that one, but if you can't consecutively subtract 7 from 100 down to 0, and not know the date, well you just might be a schizo.

Every1's entitled to an opinion, once you start propogating it as truth is when you fuck up, look at the bible, fine when it was a book of morale guidelines, once taken as truth, well, WOW! you wanna talk about the mentally unstable? don't piss off a bible basher, there arguments all end in the point of 'Well thats just what I believe' aka DELUSION, we all cling to some belief cuz we honestly don't have the slightest fucking idea what is going on, if you can delude ureself in to believing you do, then ure sane, if you just can't seem to grasp the purpose of ure existance, then ure a raving schizo, now bend over and take some Neuroleptics, these will turn you in to a druelling idiot by temporarily (and when I say that I mean permanently) shutting down areas of the brain we believe cause this disease, which so far has no sign of physical debilitation, but hey, least you won't be so god damn jittery all the time, you fuckin nuisance.
Plus the occurence of schizophrenia has increased 10 fold in the past 100 yrs, as has autism, these both being spectral behavioural disease's with a whole host of symptons, some that completely contradict such as 'Excessive restlessness' and 'motionless/detached' 'excitability' and 'delayed reactions to outside stimulus'. I wonder if HIV, or Alzheimers, or leprocy (sp?) has a spectrum of symptons, of course it fucking doesn't, because they are actual physical diseases, with organic tissue damage being the cause, you won't contract leprocy, and be a bit lame in the leg for a few days, you'll get the disease just like everybody else, you won't exhibit totally unique symptons.

Watch One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest or read it.

[DusanTafari]

thats bullshit nobody can get skitzofrenia from cannabis, look at me I get high everyday with the queen of Africa and nostrodamus,and Im fine