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    #31
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    Bin Laden denies involvement with 9/11

    What? No arabs on the plane

    this is a joke right
    So because this dude is a pilot he can be trusted-"A pilot who saw the impact, Tim Timmerman, said it had been an American Airways 757. "'It added power on its way in,' he said. 'The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball.'" Wheres the wings and engines
    - "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001

    All these muthfukers said almost the same thing, even so far as to say what airline it was and what kind of plane, what a joke, anymore jokes

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    #32
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    Bin Laden denies involvement with 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by xblackdogx
    1. by comprising a list of people on the plane it means nothing.
    2. the picture that you attached is wonderful evidence for my case, which goes back to my ORIGINAL question in which you have not answered: What type of plane would cause the damage shown in this picture... a 757?
    That's right...a 757!:thumbsup:
    http://www.montalk.net/pentagon.html

    Yes, unlike the WTC, the Pentagon is more a solid concrete structure. The plane ripped through the first ring which contained enough concrete to disintegrate the plane. A Boeing is made more of aircraft aluminum instead of armor piercing titanium, figuratively speaking. Think of the gedanken difference between 10 pounds of steel fired at a wall versus 10 pounds of water at the same speed.

    "The two photographs in question 2 show the building just after the attack. We may observe that the aircraft only hit the ground floor. The four upper floors collapsed towards 10.10 am. The building is 26 yards high.

    Can you explain how a Boeing 14.9 yards high, 51.7 yards long, with a wingspan of 41.6 yards and a cockpit 3.8 yards high, could crash into just the ground floor of this building?"

    Accuracy of the impact aside, this is easily explainable. The tail height of a 757-200 is 45 feet, but the fuselage height is only 5.5 yards.

    If one clips off the wings, tail fin, and wheels, all that is left is a fuselage only 5.5 yards in diameter. The fuselage is what did most of the damage, and thus the damage seen on the Pentagon is entirely consistent with that. Saying that a Boeing is 14.9 yards high is misleading since that is the tail height:

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    #33
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    Bin Laden denies involvement with 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by eg420ne
    What? No arabs on the plane

    this is a joke right
    So because this dude is a pilot he can be trusted-"A pilot who saw the impact, Tim Timmerman, said it had been an American Airways 757. "'It added power on its way in,' he said. 'The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball.'" Wheres the wings and engines
    - "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001

    All these muthfukers said almost the same thing, even so far as to say what airline it was and what kind of plane, what a joke, anymore jokes
    I watched a show on this the other night. I guess there is markings on the underbellys of these planes that someone in the industry could easily pick out.

    Oh ya, they may have taken the Arabs off the passenger for obvious reasons.:thumbsup:

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    #34
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    Bin Laden denies involvement with 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
    I watched a show on this the other night. I guess there is markings on the underbellys of these planes that someone in the industry could easily pick out.

    Oh ya, they may have taken the Arabs off the passenger for obvious reasons.:thumbsup:
    Sounds likes sumthing KKKarl Rove would say..J/K

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    #35
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    Bin Laden denies involvement with 9/11

    Psycho4Bud.....tell us why you don't believe 911 was caused by the government?????

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    #36
    Senior Member

    Bin Laden denies involvement with 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
    I watched a show on this the other night. I guess there is markings on the underbellys of these planes that someone in the industry could easily pick out.

    Oh ya, they may have taken the Arabs off the passenger for obvious reasons.:thumbsup:
    Why would they take them off the list..I dont understand. What would be gained from this

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    #37
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    Bin Laden denies involvement with 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by Great Spirit
    Psycho4Bud.....tell us why you don't believe 911 was caused by the government?????
    I'll run through it one more time....I should just start a thread with this so all I have to do is copy and paste...LOL

    Osama Bin Laden:

    Admitted to doing this...he felt this was a plus
    Lost his country as a training camp...thats a negative
    Assests seized....another negative
    Friends getting killed off all around him....another negative
    Living with a bounty on his head....huge negative

    If he weren't responsible he would be giving video tapes to Al-Jazeera and every other western hating news organization to blow the lid off this...he hasn't!

    The Muslim world:

    They would be in complete outrage from Palistine to Iran over the injustice that the U.S. and the U.N. put upon Afghanistan and Osama Bin Laden. Bin Laden as you know was highly regarded due to his humanitarian efforts not to mention his war efforts in Afghanistan.

    Back to the States:

    Passenger lists
    Eye Witness lists
    Lists of loved ones
    Video showing commercial jets hitting these buildings
    Cell phones


    The biggest clincher though is Osama and the Muslim world....if he wasn't envolved, THEY WOULD BE PISSED!

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    #38
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    Bin Laden denies involvement with 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by eg420ne
    Why would they take them off the list..I dont understand. What would be gained from this
    I think these sites don't want them assholes to be confused with actual victims. Just my own :twocents:

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    #39
    Senior Member

    Bin Laden denies involvement with 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
    I think these sites don't want them assholes to be confused with actual victims. Just my own :twocents:
    1. could you find any videos released by the gov't that show any of the alleged terrorists in the airport... you know to confirm... from what i have heard they were not on the passenger list!
    2. to you're theory of the wings and tail blah blah: if it was actually true, how do you explain the small hole on the ground floor. For it to be even possible to make that type of whole with the airplane of that size in that specific area (ground floor), there would be a giant imprint of the belly of the plane infront of that hole on the ground b/c it would of had to be coming in at a VERY steep angle to hit that spot (which discredits all of those testimonies that say it was 20 ft above the ground over the highway or whatnot.

    More realistically IF IT WAS a plane that impacted it, the hole would be much higher, check out the plane in the picture, and the height... i know there was no landing gear but the engines are lower than the nose of the plane and those engines are at least 10 ft high... any insight on that?

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    #40
    Senior Member

    Bin Laden denies involvement with 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by xblackdogx
    1. could you find any videos released by the gov't that show any of the alleged terrorists in the airport... you know to confirm... from what i have heard they were not on the passenger list!

    I do recall seeing footage of that on tv but to find it...I really don't think I could. The site I got the passenger list from wasn't an official airlines registor either. It was CNN if I recall.

    2. to you're theory of the wings and tail blah blah: if it was actually true, how do you explain the small hole on the ground floor. For it to be even possible to make that type of whole with the airplane of that size in that specific area (ground floor), there would be a giant imprint of the belly of the plane infront of that hole on the ground b/c it would of had to be coming in at a VERY steep angle to hit that spot (which discredits all of those testimonies that say it was 20 ft above the ground over the highway or whatnot.

    More realistically IF IT WAS a plane that impacted it, the hole would be much higher, check out the plane in the picture, and the height... i know there was no landing gear but the engines are lower than the nose of the plane and those engines are at least 10 ft high... any insight on that?
    That's a theory, you asked what I believe...I stated it...gave links...opinion. As far as the angle of the dangle hell, I'm a fluid power technician .....just a little out of my field.

    I also don't believe that all the people on the passenger list, loved ones, witnesses are being paid off for silence.
    You know why crooks usually like to work alone....less mouths to tell the story to the cops! How many people do you think the government would let in on a plot of this caliber? Damn, Clinton couldn't even get a hummer in private and you think that something of this magnitude would fly? I don't!:thumbsup:


    Well, big morning of community service awaits!

    Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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