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    #1
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    California Smoker/Drivers "Were Screwed"

    Heres a letter i recieved earlier today for NORML explaining whats will probably happen! and how to help stop it!

    From NORML.ORG:

    California Considers Dangerous 'Drugged Driving' Bill

    Take Action Now!

    Dear Friend,

    NORML is writing you today to alert you of an unnecessary and potentially dangerous bill before the state Assembly.

    Assembly Bill 2673, an act to amend Section 23152 of the California Vehicle Code, seeks to punish marijuana consumers including legally protected medicinal cannabis patients who operate a motor vehicle with any "measurable amount" of THC in their blood, even when the individual is, potentially, neither under the influence nor impaired to drive.

    We all support the goal of keeping impaired drivers off the road, regardless of whether the driver is impaired from alcohol or other drugs. However, AB 2673 is poorly drafted, and seeks to create a new, driving-related offense that is divorced from driver impairment.

    Assembly Bill 2673 seeks to make it a criminal offense in California for any person to operate a motor vehicle if any measurable level of THC, an active compound in marijuana, is present in their blood. Because THC may remain detectable at low levels in the blood of heavy cannabis users for up to 1-2 days after past use, and perhaps even longer if more sensitive testing technology is used, this legislation risks improperly criminalizing sober drivers as if they were intoxicated. Someone who smokes marijuana is impaired as a driver at most for a few hours; certainly not for one or two days. To treat all marijuana smokers as if they are impaired, even when the drug's effects have long worn off, is illogical and unfair.

    In addition, California already has effect-based laws on the books targeting and prosecuting drivers who operate a motor vehicle "under the influence" of illicit drugs. Under Section 23152 of California's Vehicle Code, motorists face up to six months in jail if they drive "under the influence of a drug." By contrast, AB 2673 seeks to create a new crime of "drugged driving" that is divorced from impairment, and that would jail motorists for simply having consumed an illicit substance at some prior, unspecified date.

    That is why NORML is asking you today to contact members of the Assembly Public Safety Committee, which will be holding hearings on this measure on Tuesday, April 4, and tell them that you oppose AB 2673. For your convenience, contact information for the Committee and a pre-written letter opposing AB 2673 is included below.

    Sincerely,
    Paul Armentano
    Senior Policy Analyst
    NORML | NORML Foundation



    Assembly Public Safety Committee http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/newco...p?committee=57

    Leno, Mark (Chair)
    State Capitol Room 3146
    Sacramento, CA 94249
    916-319-2013
    [email protected]

    La Suer, Jay (Vice Chair)
    State Capitol Room 5160
    Sacramento, CA 94249
    916-319-2077
    [email protected]

    Cohn, Rebecca
    State Capitol Room 3160
    Sacramento, CA 94249
    916-319-2024
    [email protected]

    Dymally, Mervyn
    State Capitol Room 3132
    Sacramento, CA 94249
    916-319-2052
    [email protected]

    Goldberg, Jackie
    State Capitol Room 2003
    Sacramento, CA 94249
    916-319-2045
    [email protected]

    Sptizer, Todd
    State Capitol Room 2111
    Sacramento, CA 94249
    916-319-2071
    [email protected]


    Dear Assemblymember ____________,

    I am writing you today to urge you to reject Assembly Bill 2673, an act to amend Section 23152 of the California Vehicle Code.

    We all support the goal of keeping impaired drivers off the road, regardless of whether the driver is impaired from alcohol or other drugs. However, AB 2673 is poorly drafted, and seeks to create a new, driving-related offense that is divorced from driver impairment. If passed, this measure would potentially criminalize cannabis consumers including those tens of thousands of patients who use cannabis in accordance with state law who operate a motor vehicle, even when the individual is neither under the influence nor impaired to drive.

    Assembly Bill 2673 seeks to make it a criminal offense in California for any person to operate a motor vehicle if any measurable level of THC, an active compound in marijuana, is present in their blood. Because THC may remain detectable at low levels in the blood of heavy cannabis users for up to 1-2 days after past use, and perhaps even longer if more sensitive testing technology is used, this legislation risks improperly criminalizing sober drivers as if they were intoxicated. Someone who smokes marijuana is impaired as a driver at most for a few hours; certainly not for one or two days. To treat all marijuana smokers as if they are impaired, even when the drug's effects have long worn off, is illogical and unfair.

    In addition, California already has effect-based laws on the books targeting and prosecuting drivers who operate a motor vehicle "under the influence" of illicit drugs. Under Section 23152 of California¹s Vehicle Code, motorists face up to six months in jail if they drive "under the influence of a drug." By contrast, AB 2673 seeks to create a new crime of "drugged driving" that is divorced from impairment and that would jail motorists for simply having consumed an illicit substance at some prior, unspecified date. While Californians certainly do not wish to condone illegal drug use, it's also clear that this proposal seeks to misuse the state's traffic-safety laws to target illicit drug use in general. In short, there is no need for this additional legislation.

    Lastly, it's premature for California lawmakers to be considering the establishment of zero tolerance "drugged driving" thresholds when legislative action on this matter is pending from Congress. Before the close of 2006, the US Department of Transportation and US Department of Health and Human Services will be issuing to Congress "recommendations for developing a model statute for states relating to drug impaired driving," including:
    - "Threshold levels of impairment for illicit drugs";
    - "Practicable methods for detecting the presence of illegal drugs";
    - "Penalties for drug impaired driving."

    At a minimum, the California Legislature should wait until Congress has weighed in on this issue before moving forward with this poorly drafted legislation.

    While driving under the influence of illicit and licit substances is obviously a serious problem, AB 2673 neither addresses the problem nor offers a legitimate solution. Therefore, I urge you to reject AB 2673.

    Sincerely,

    Your Name

    That is very disturbing!
    imagoober Reviewed by imagoober on . California Smoker/Drivers "Were Screwed" Heres a letter i recieved earlier today for NORML explaining whats will probably happen! and how to help stop it! From NORML.ORG: California Considers Dangerous 'Drugged Driving' Bill Take Action Now! Dear Friend, Rating: 5

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    #2
    Senior Member

    California Smoker/Drivers "Were Screwed"

    not good...

  4.     
    #3
    Senior Member

    California Smoker/Drivers "Were Screwed"

    thats why im proud to not live in the u.s

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    #4
    Senior Member

    California Smoker/Drivers "Were Screwed"

    yeah fuck that, i'm going to canada.
    Could these sensations make me feel the pleasures of a normal man?

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    #5
    Senior Member

    California Smoker/Drivers "Were Screwed"

    wow, i hoep you guys reject that or you're proper fucked. cops would be able to get you any time :|

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    #6
    Senior Member

    California Smoker/Drivers "Were Screwed"

    Ahhh.... i love England... Seeds aint ilegal, bongs and pipes arnt, small amounts of weed arnt, weathers shit tho.... but also many many good things, and wear i live i get a fair amount of skunk smuggled in from Holland so i have a good weed supply... mainly K2 or super skunk or Northern Lights.... i like to stick with them 3... or i like to get some hash and make a hash and green coctail joint

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    #7
    Senior Member

    California Smoker/Drivers "Were Screwed"

    Quote Originally Posted by Hollandica
    wow, i hoep you guys reject that or you're proper fucked. cops would be able to get you any time :|
    See it may seem that way on paper, but if you would read the immigration laws you would think nobody could get here...

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    #8
    Senior Member

    California Smoker/Drivers "Were Screwed"

    Dear Friends:

    NORML is pleased to inform you that Assembly Bill 2673, California??s
    proposed ??zero tolerance? drugged driving bill, was rejected by the
    Assembly Public Safety Committee yesterday. A majority of the Committee
    agreed it is not in the best interest of California citizens to
    criminally
    punish cannabis consumers ?? including legally protected medicinal
    cannabis
    patients ?? who operate a motor vehicle with any ??measurable amount? of
    THC
    in their blood, even in cases when the individual is neither under the
    influence nor impaired to drive.

    NORML representatives testified before the Committee in opposition to
    AB
    2673, stating that the proposed ??zero tolerance? standard is
    scientifically unjustified, and that this measure would improperly
    criminalize tens of thousands of state medical cannabis users. National
    NORML also submitted public comments to the Committee, which were
    included
    in the Committee record, opposing the bill.

    If passed, Assembly Bill 2673 would have made it a criminal offense in
    California for any person to operate a motor vehicle if any measurable
    level of THC, an active compound in marijuana, was present in their
    blood.
    Because THC may remain detectable at low levels in the blood of heavy
    cannabis users for up to 1-2 days after past use, and perhaps even
    longer
    if more sensitive testing technology is used, this legislation risked
    improperly criminalizing sober drivers as if they were intoxicated.
    Fortunately, a majority of the Committee agreed with NORML??s stance and
    rejected this unnecessary and troublesome proposal.

    NORML would like to take this time to thank you for contacting the
    Public
    Safety Committee and urging them to reject AB 2673. Due in part to your
    efforts, cannabis consumers and patients will not face additional and
    unnecessary criminal sanctions in California.

    Sincerely,

    Paul Armentano
    NORML Senior Policy Analyst

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    #9
    Senior Member

    California Smoker/Drivers "Were Screwed"

    In Wisconsin ANY marijuana conviction comes with a 6 month loss of license! I was sitting in my own home, not driving impaired, and lost mine!

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