Hello and thankyou very much for the replies, very much appreciated

Zandor, I have no idea about the PH value, you know me simple, easy and just plain lazy
Anyway I read you're post and well I know they aren't right, so I thought it's time for drastic action here, ethier "kill or cure".
They are looking to me lke a bit of a "lost cause" and to be honest I ever since I got divorced "I don't do lost causes"

So I've re-potted in totally different compost, gave them a quite severe prunning and absolutely drenched them ....................... now I'll give them a little longer to improve, if they don't I'll bin them and start in the other growroom as the temprature should be ok by then.


Thankyou all .................................. love mand xxx