Oh turtle i should of showed you pictures but im too lazy i bought an mh and hpsbulb and sytem thing. Theres 7 lights i have the mh on rite now i dont really need the hps during vegetation too much money. I decided to go with a 20 hours of light and 4 hours darkness. The big flos are 2 ft above the small ones are 8 inches above. With the 6k with a buds thats a guess but he had way over a pound a mother furocker clipped them ill have him give me some pictures for you to see he was grwing them since August the biggest bud he had was almost like a foot long it was bigger than the buds on the greenlifeseeds.com romulan sweet skunk plant they probably put up his plant pictures if you look around dude but im out