Quote Originally Posted by suhl
you sir are an idiot. how does murdering innocent people overthrow the establishment. i was unaware that anyone thought he was a revolutionary. brainwashing people is starting a revolution now? whos the next person youll call a revolutionary, pyscho from heavens gate, he convinced far more people he was right than manson. charles manson is overrated.
Didn't you read anything I wrote? I don't believe murdering innocent people is going to overthrow the establishment. Nor do I believe that Charles Manson is a revolutionary or anything close to it.

All I said in that post was that violence is necessary in political revolutions. If you want to debate that fact, well, provide me with an example of a bloodless political revolution. It doesn't happen, because the oppressors really want to hold on to what they have, and sometimes you have to behead the king.