Charles Manson....

[Breukelen advocaat]

Lie - Charles Manson is a murderer. The assumption that Charles Manson is some kind of murderer has been so widely and blindly accepted that many people regard is as a fundamental truth. Manson's picture graces the covers of numerous books on mass murder. Media interviewers assume that he is a killer. (Geraldo to CM: "You're a mass-murdering dog.") Yet Manson has never killed anyone. The prosecution never claimed that he killed any of the persons for whose murders he was convicted (He was never present at the Tate residence; he left the LaBianca residence before anyone was killed; he was not present when either Gary Hinman or Shorty Shea was killed.). And aside from some wholly unsubstantiated rumors (e.g. that he shot someone in the head with a .45 in Death Valley) there is no evidence that he ever killed anyone in a murder that he wasn't charged with.
http://www.atwa.info/lies.htm

[turtle420]

Lie - Charles Manson is a murderer. The assumption that Charles Manson is some kind of murderer has been so widely and blindly accepted that many people regard is as a fundamental truth. Manson's picture graces the covers of numerous books on mass murder. Media interviewers assume that he is a killer. (Geraldo to CM: "You're a mass-murdering dog.") Yet Manson has never killed anyone. The prosecution never claimed that he killed any of the persons for whose murders he was convicted (He was never present at the Tate residence; he left the LaBianca residence before anyone was killed; he was not present when either Gary Hinman or Shorty Shea was killed.). And aside from some wholly unsubstantiated rumors (e.g. that he shot someone in the head with a .45 in Death Valley) there is no evidence that he ever killed anyone in a murder that he wasn't charged with.
http://www.atwa.info/lies.htm

True... he only brainwashed three unknowning girls into commiting his murders... he's a coward, he isn't a man, he has no balls, and I'm happy he's rooting in prison.

You see that? That's me smiling when I think he's rooting in there

[Oneironaut]

ghandi never killed anybody.

That doesn't mean nobody died to get the British out of India. And besides, the Indian independence movement wasn't a real "revolution". The socioeconomic structure of India is pretty much the same as it was before. It is a member of the British Commonwealth and recognizes the British monarchy. The economy is still structured so that most wealth is concentrated into the hands of an elite few. And of course, the wretched caste system is still alive and well. A certain amount of self-administration was gained, but nothing fundamental has really changed. The Indian people remain oppressed.

[Breukelen advocaat]

True... he only brainwashed three unknowning girls into commiting his murders... he's a coward, he isn't a man, he has no balls, and I'm happy he's rooting in prison.
You see that? That's me smiling when I think he's rooting in there

I'd say stop wasting the taxpayers' money and put REAL murderers in his cell. This guy is a wacko, but it wasn't his fault that people with the ability and willingness to commit murder actually did these atrocious crimes. Manson Family member "Tex" Watson, a murderer, wasn't a female.

Men who are excusing women criminals for their behavior, which is typical of a "house" male, are the ones that have been "brainwashed" - by the convoluted ideas of idiotic feminism.

[suhl]

how does murdering innocent people overthrow the establishment. stop trying to compare it to battles in war you idiot. he found some weakwilled pricks and had them sneak into peoples houses at night and cut them up. they were unaware that it was going to happen. seriously did you go to school? comparing the manson murders to the american revolution is like comparing apples and shoehorns. i was unaware that anyone thought he was a revolutionary. brainwashing people is starting a revolution now? whos the next person youll call a revolutionary, that pyscho from heavens gate, he convinced far more people he was right than manson. charles manson is overrated.

anyone calling him a revolutionary now would be committing his murders for them back when he was around. you disgust me.

[HIGHRYDER]

Manson was and is souless filth.

[Oneironaut]

you sir are an idiot. how does murdering innocent people overthrow the establishment. i was unaware that anyone thought he was a revolutionary. brainwashing people is starting a revolution now? whos the next person youll call a revolutionary, pyscho from heavens gate, he convinced far more people he was right than manson. charles manson is overrated.

Didn't you read anything I wrote? I don't believe murdering innocent people is going to overthrow the establishment. Nor do I believe that Charles Manson is a revolutionary or anything close to it.

All I said in that post was that violence is necessary in political revolutions. If you want to debate that fact, well, provide me with an example of a bloodless political revolution. It doesn't happen, because the oppressors really want to hold on to what they have, and sometimes you have to behead the king.

[HIGHRYDER]

Lie - Charles Manson is a murderer. The assumption that Charles Manson is some kind of murderer has been so widely and blindly accepted that many people regard is as a fundamental truth. Manson's picture graces the covers of numerous books on mass murder. Media interviewers assume that he is a killer. (Geraldo to CM: "You're a mass-murdering dog.") Yet Manson has never killed anyone. The prosecution never claimed that he killed any of the persons for whose murders he was convicted (He was never present at the Tate residence; he left the LaBianca residence before anyone was killed; he was not present when either Gary Hinman or Shorty Shea was killed.). And aside from some wholly unsubstantiated rumors (e.g. that he shot someone in the head with a .45 in Death Valley) there is no evidence that he ever killed anyone in a murder that he wasn't charged with.
http://www.atwa.info/lies.htm

He Is a murderer. His weapon of choice was brainwashed young women and other assorted followers.

[suhl]

ill admit it, i didnt thoroughly read it, i edited my post a little, but anyone who thinks he is a revolutionary is an idiot

[robert42]

BOTH