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    cops assaulted? more like pot smoker assaulted!!

    hi everyone i am new here but i have to vent about this. i have a friend thomas who was beat up right in front of my eyes by the cops. then the cops said they were the ones beat up. please read this and send me an email with any comments. and by the way while reading what was written in the local papers keep in mind i would like to know how these cops were kicked and punched and "assaulted" only needed care at the hospital for hand injuries. now common sense tells me someone with hand injuries was the person doing the hitting and punching.

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    Two cops assaulted in arrest, police sayTwo men are sent to prison in lieu of bail after an incident in Plymouth.By KEVIN AMERMAN [email protected]LYMOUTH â?? Two police officers were assaulted after crashing a pot-smoking session in Plymouth, police said.
    Thomas Merritt Grasmeder, 24, and 21-year-old Christopher Roberts kicked and punched officers who responded to a neighborâ??s complaint that she smelled marijuana smoke, according to police.
    Grasmeder was charged with two counts of aggravated assault and simple assault and one count each of resisting arrest, manufacturing a controlled substance, possession of a controlled substance and disorderly conduct.
    Roberts was charged with two counts of simple assault, resisting arrest, manufacturing a controlled substance, possession of drug paraphernalia, and possession of a small amount of marijuana.
    Both men were sent to the Luzerne County Correctional Facility in lieu of $20,000 straight bail by District Judge David Barilla, said police.
    According to the Plymouth Police Department:
    At about 8:36 p.m. on Monday, Plymouth Officer Kristofer Renfer was dispatched to a basement apartment at the rear of 258 E. Main St. for a report that the residents were smoking marijuana. Roberts answered the door and let the officer in. Renfer said he immediately smelled marijuana and saw several devices used to smoke it. He said he also saw marijuana plants growing under lights. He advised Grasmeder and Roberts that they were under arrest and they began to loudly curse at the officer, telling him to leave and get a search warrant.
    They defied an officerâ??s order to place their hands behind their backs and Grasmeder shoved the officer in the chest and jumped on a bed as Roberts moved behind the officer. Renfer sprayed both men with a substance to startle them as a Larksville police officer, Daniel Lewis, arrived. Lewis attempted to take Grasmeder into custody as Renfer did the same with Roberts. Both men tried to avoid the arrests by kicking and punching at the officers. Grasmeder punched Lewis with a closed fist in the chest and upper body several times. Renfer assisted the officer after arresting Roberts and Grasmeder kicked him in the stomach, neck and groin.
    The men were eventually led to the police station and officers obtained a search warrant at about 12:25 a.m. on Tuesday. They seized smoking devices, rolling papers, plant food, a UV light, a heat lamp, baggies, marijuana seeds and marijuana plants.
    Later, police attempted to fingerprint Grasmeder and say he charged them, requiring four officers to overcome his force.
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    Police said they found 43 marijuana plants, plant food, potting soil and other drug paraphernalia inside the apartment of Christopher Roberts, 21, and Thomas M. Grasmeder, 24, at 258 E. Main St.

    Plymouth Officer Kristopher Renfer responded to a complaint about a marijuana smell coming from the apartment.

    Roberts invited Renfer inside. Renfer allegedly saw three pipes on a table and marijuana plants under a light inside an open closet. Roberts and Grasmeder told Renfer to get out and get a search warrant.

    According to a police affidavit, Roberts grabbed the officer from behind and Grasmeder jumped on top of him.

    Renfer sprayed the pair with pepper spray.

    Police said Larksville Officer Dan Lewis, who responded to the scene, grabbed Grasmeder and attempted to arrest him. Renfer put Roberts in handcuffs and helped Lewis, who was still fighting with Grasmeder. Grasmeder kicked and punched Renfer and Plymouth Officer Anthony Gorey, according to Plymouth Acting Police Chief Robert M. Lehman.

    Lehman said Gorey and Lewis sustained hand injuries and were treated and released from Wilkes-Barre General Hospital. Renfer sustained minor injuries and did not require medical treatment, Lehman said.

    Roberts and Gresmeder were charged with assault, resisting arrest and drug offenses. They are being held at the Luzerne County Correctional Facility in lieu of $20,000 bail each.

    Their preliminary hearing is set for March 29 at 10 a.m. at Luzerne County Central Court, Wilkes-Barre
    steph18702 Reviewed by steph18702 on . cops assaulted? more like pot smoker assaulted!! hi everyone i am new here but i have to vent about this. i have a friend thomas who was beat up right in front of my eyes by the cops. then the cops said they were the ones beat up. please read this and send me an email with any comments. and by the way while reading what was written in the local papers keep in mind i would like to know how these cops were kicked and punched and "assaulted" only needed care at the hospital for hand injuries. now common sense tells me someone with hand injuries Rating: 5

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    cops assaulted? more like pot smoker assaulted!!

    The thing that I don't understand is why they let the police inside, without a warrant, in the first place.

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    cops assaulted? more like pot smoker assaulted!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
    The thing that I don't understand is why they let the police inside, without a warrant, in the first place.
    Yup, opening the door is an invitation to the police to come inside. Literally.
    Don't ever open the door for them. Talk to them through the closed and locked door. Even then they will lie to you. Isn't that right, myth1184?

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    cops assaulted? more like pot smoker assaulted!!

    If the police officers can smell the pot then that is probable cause alone, and they do not need a warrant.

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    cops assaulted? more like pot smoker assaulted!!

    Quote Originally Posted by duhrickjames
    If the police officers can smell the pot then that is probable cause alone, and they do not need a warrant.
    Yes, but the burden of proof remains with the police. Please tell me how the police prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they smelled it. Just their say so does not meet the burden of proof test.

    Anyway, it's pretty stupid to be smoking and growing with someone so close who could simply pick up the phone and blow the whistle.

    If people are gonna smoke and grow pot, be bloody smart about it, so the prohibitionists don't have a reason to speak out against us. I've seen at least three stories in less than a month of people being totally stupid about smoking/growing pot. That kind of thing is giving the legalization movement a bad name.

    You see, smoking pot does cause brain damage - look at all the stupid things pot smokers are doing.:thumbsup:

    I hate to sound like myth1184, but it is still illegal. Be careful!!!

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    Member

    cops assaulted? more like pot smoker assaulted!!

    Quote Originally Posted by mfactor420
    Yes, but the burden of proof remains with the police. Please tell me how the police prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they smelled it. Just their say so does not meet the burden of proof test.

    I hate to sound like myth1184, but it is still illegal. Be careful!!!
    They don't need to prove anything until subpoenaed to do so by the courts. Furthermore, 2 cops are considered a more credible source than 2 civilians. As soon as the two men are arrested, they're split up into different cars. They don't get to communicate during questioning, but guess what. The cops do. The cops can make up whatever bullshit story they want, and there will be 2 cops with the same story as opposed to 2 people with stories that are slightly or incredibly different.

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