Quote Originally Posted by andyandy
lol.....can we have some perspective here? sure the constitutuion was a well written document full of great ideals of liberty and equality....but it was a concept founded on the work of great renaissance philosophers.....
indeed if you want to look for "great minds" on ideals on liberty an eqaulity then why stop there? - lao tsu was around 2600 years ago and he pretty much nailed it. The founding fathers were intelligent men but hardly worthy of some quasi-religious elevation to the most divinely intelligent group in history.....
I do not equate religious thinking with intellect. I did not use terms, in reference to the Founding Fathers, such as "divinely intelligent", nor did my statement reflect a "quasi-religious elevation". In fact, the Founding Fathers were themselves very secular in their approach to the type of government that they created. All I did was state my opinion that they were possibly the greatest "group" of men assembled in history - and the word "greatest" certainly does not, at least in my interpretation, have the slightest ring of religion, or religiosity, to it.

Just because they were educated, and intelligent, enough to be influenced by ideas and works from the great masters of philosophy, science, art, politics, and other subjects does not diminish their contribution -it enhanced and improved it.
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