Seed Mystery

[bonbon]

Females will produce non viable seeds even if males are not around. These seeds will generally look pale and have no chance of germination.

this has happened in several grows that i may have let mature a little too long,they are hollow unfertilized seed,worthless,useless,non viable,but they are seed none the less....bonbon

[Sinsemilla Jones]

Are you absolutely sure no late forming male flower shot its load unnoticed?

Pollen can come not only from nearby gardens, but from wild hemp which grows everywhere.

Pollen can even make it indoors on clothes and pets.

A late polinated flower would have pale, non-viable seed at harvest, because the seed wouldn't have the time to mature.

Have either one of you tried to let these "immaculate" seeds mature on the plant?

I've got to respect experience, bonbon, but immaculate seed production would seem to defy the laws of botany.

[Sinsemilla Jones]

Let me know when you find your brain.....

Really convinced me with all your facts as well as being so nice about it!

I'll make sure to reccomend your site to everyone!

[bonbon]

you know Mr.jones,like when a woman has her menstruation,my mother had a lone solitary female lovebird that use to lay eggs regularly,of course they wouldn't hatch,they weren't fertilized,but she kept laying them,the seeds themselves are thin shelled and hollow,and have no chance of growing,it's just a hormonel phenomena,very natural process....bonbon

[Sinsemilla Jones]

Then the female flowers which are comparable to a human woman's eggs are no longer fertile.

But a woman's fertile eggs can't become fetuses without being penetrated by sperm.

A cannabis seed is a fetus.

It may miscarry or be aborted, but it had to have been the product of the joining of pistal (egg) and staminae (sperm) to be any sort of seed (fetus).

[HIGHGRADE SEEDS]

Then the female flowers which are comparable to a human woman's eggs are no longer fertile.

But a woman's fertile eggs can't become fetuses without being penetrated by sperm.

A cannabis seed is a fetus.

It may miscarry or be aborted, but it had to have been the product of the joining of pistal (egg) and staminae (sperm) to be any sort of seed (fetus).

Love your theory on omni-present MJ pollen in the air. It explains why these seeds are always pale and never viable. Must be cause they were fertilized.

[GRB.4.Life]

Female cannabis plants can NOT produce seeds without being pollenated. Period. BonBon, your plant didnt produce a seed, the inside of the flower dried up and hardened, which is why it was hollow. Thats what happens if you let it over-mature. Comparing flowers to people and/or animals is rediculous. I asked my girlfriends biology professor just to back myself and trust me, a female flower can NOT produce a seed without pollenation. Plants and flowers are just not like humans or any type of bird. The analogy you guys are making doesnt create anolog. As a matter of fact it contradicts its self. There could have been just enough pollen from a similar flower or even a very small amount from a male somewhere in the air to allow your female to produce a seed or two...

Lets not argue about this tho, its pointless, who really cares?

[HIGHGRADE SEEDS]

There could have been just enough pollen from a similar flower or even a very small amount from a male somewhere in the air to allow your female to produce a seed or two...

Not a likely scenario at all but its the only way to explain your theory. The keyword here is VIABLE seeds. If the seeds are pale, thin and without density as they are not viable, they are not even really seeds in the full definition of the word. They are for the most part empty shells with no possibility of germination as there has been no pollen.

Dreaming IS free though.....

[Peyote Freak]

they are not even really seeds in the full definition of the word.

Yes, in which case, as they donâ??t contain embryonic plants, and have no potential to germinate, Sinsemilla Jones and GRB.4.Life were correct in saying that an unfertilized female pant doesnâ??t produce seed.

But bonbon and HIGHGRADE SEED were correct in emphasizing that unfertilized female plants can develop empty seed epidermises.

[yourbud]

A portion of it became a Hermia in late flowering. Can we all concur on that?!