People are from outer space?

[Oneironaut]

back in those days i doubt they had magicians. i think magic did really exist. i mean whatever happened to alchemy.

Really? You don't think anybody came up with the idea of doing magic tricks in all of human history until the past couple millennia? Wow. By the way, alchemy failed. It was a movement to try to turn certain substances into gold, which it never did. It did give rise to the field of chemistry as people realized their errors, but it failed to do anything verifiably magical.

[king kong bong]

No, the universe is a huge place and there is probably life elsewhere. But not that we know of. We seem to be alone in this particular corner of the universe.

i think thats bs. there isnt concrete evidence but there is evidence. archaeological evidence i say is the strongest. paintings, drawings on walls, references to "gods" coming from the skys. just look at all the ancient civilizations, they have common similarities in their "gods" and this was way before the bible.

[JunkYard]

Actually, Alchemy was more about transforming the 'self'. At least in magickian terms...

[king kong bong]

Really? You don't think anybody came up with the idea of doing magic tricks in all of human history until the past couple millennia? Wow. By the way, alchemy failed. It was a movement to try to turn certain substances into gold, which it never did. It did give rise to the field of chemistry as people realized their errors, but it failed to do anything verifiably magical.

it was the combination of science and magic. so real magic had to exist and im not talkin about tricks and illusions. in the so called jesus days, i still say there were no magicians(tricks and illusions). just a buncha carpenters.

[Oneironaut]

well to be technical, its really speculation on both sides. you cant shoo off one idea just cuz you dont like the way it sounds.

No, evolution is not just speculation. It's true that science involves a certain degree of speculation, but that speculation has to then be verified with observable evidence, which evolution is. There is tons of documented observable evidence which supports the theory of evolution, and not one shred that I know of that suggests we were actually put here by aliens.

A scientific theory also has to be falsifiable, which is to say that there must be some way to prove the idea wrong. For example, if evolution was wrong, it could be proven by finding in a human skeleton in the same layer of the fossil record as a trilobyte. But how could anyone possibly prove the alien origin hypothesis wrong? For any possible objection to the idea, you could just say "the aliens made it that way". Why do humans have vestigial organs? The aliens made it that way. Why aren't the aliens still in contact with us? They're hiding. Why isn't there any evidence for any of this? The aliens did an excellent job covering it all up and leaving no trace of themselves. And so forth...

[Kush Over]

No, the universe is a huge place and there is probably life elsewhere. But not that we know of. We seem to be alone in this particular corner of the universe.

The universe is a big place. In fact, so large that at it's theorized creation -- the Big Bang -- it expanded from the size of a marble to a space some billion times larger than visible space in a matter of a trillionth of a trillionth second.

Yes, evidence points to our origins lying in the same family as our not-so-distant cousins short of a chromosome -- the primates. Personally, I don't see a serious difference between us -- humans and apes I mean.

It may not be that we're alone, but that whatever visitors have came here would have generally been dissuaded by what and who we are. Personally, if I were an alien fresh from another planet, Earth would be the last fucking place I'd go.

Or maybe they've already been here, or are still dipping in and out occasionally. It'd be rather arduous to monitor every inch of the sky from Earth. In fact, it'd probably be damn near impossible.


It's been said that the absence of evidence doesn't necessarily denote the evidence of absence. Think about it.

[Oneironaut]

it was the combination of science and magic. so real magic had to exist and im not talkin about tricks and illusions. in the so called jesus days, i still say there were no magicians(tricks and illusions). just a buncha carpenters.

What do you mean, "magic had to exist"? Why did it have to exist? What evidence is there that it existed? You can't just believe in something because it sounds cool. You actually have to back it up with evidence. I don't know why so many people have a hard time with that concept.

[king kong bong]

i dont know why so many people have trouble with concept that an idea is based on some sort of truth. ideas just dont come outta nowhere you know. they are always based on something or a combination of things. thats how the human brain works.

[smokingskeleton]

Omfg How fucked are you guys?

Evolution..read up on it some time.
We came from apes...And if there are aliens Where The Fuck Are They? I havent seen any apart from stupid hoax's and i don't trust a redneck's personal experience....

Saying that i do belive there are "aliens" but i don't think they have the technology to travel to earth...If aliens did create us why? Are we pets to them? Seems like a big load of bull to me.

[Oneironaut]

i think thats bs. there isnt concrete evidence but there is evidence. archaeological evidence i say is the strongest. paintings, drawings on walls, references to "gods" coming from the skys. just look at all the ancient civilizations, they have common similarities in their "gods" and this was way before the bible.

Imagine that you are a prehistoric man living in a primitive tribe. You don't understand the real scientific explanations for lightning, earthquakes, diseases, the planets and stars, human consciousness, the origin of life, or anything like that. Because you don't want to live without explanations for all these daily occurrences, you conclude that there are invisible spirits behind all these things and you call them gods. Where must they live? Well, not here on earth obviously. Nobody has ever seen one. So you can only conclude that they live in the sky. Maybe you say that the big yellow ball of light that gives us heat is God. Or maybe you say that God actually lives behind the celestial sphere that seems to turn around the earth every day. Either way, it has to be up there and not down here since nobody has actually seen gods on earth.