Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut
Really? You don't think anybody came up with the idea of doing magic tricks in all of human history until the past couple millennia? Wow. By the way, alchemy failed. It was a movement to try to turn certain substances into gold, which it never did. It did give rise to the field of chemistry as people realized their errors, but it failed to do anything verifiably magical.
it was the combination of science and magic. so real magic had to exist and im not talkin about tricks and illusions. in the so called jesus days, i still say there were no magicians(tricks and illusions). just a buncha carpenters.