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03-21-2006, 09:55 AM #9
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That is IT!
The people with the balls to stand up over a trivial issue of standing and reciting a few words, it's less effort to simply give lip service and not care. He had the balls to stand up, yes. But he stood up for the wrong issue - if he has problems with the system, maybe he should a) move country to where the system is kinder....or b) become part of the system, become a local governer or whatever floats your boat 'n' campaign for whatever you believe in. I reckon a website forum (this forum) worth of petition signatures, and anyone else you can find would do a lil' something more than telling a teacher that you think the pledge is a pile of shite.
Originally Posted by P.E.N.G.U.I.N.
Government actually started when land was taken over by those stronger than the weak. They begun excercising their beliefs over the land they controlled and soon a government arose - not a democratic government though, more of an oligarchy.
Originally Posted by P.E.N.G.U.I.N.
Today we have a different government, a democracy - and yes, it may not be the best of things. but it's the lesser of all evils. You may throw both anarchism and communism at me as better than Democracy - but then I want you to show me the succesful countries that operate under both those systems. Russia failed as a communist state quite catastrophically. I don't know of an anarchist state...
Your issues with money, who gives a fuck? yes it's a piece of paper with 10 on - that's worth 10 little pieces of metal or whatever. Everything needs cold hard cash because that's how it's always been. Exchanging thing for thing - whether it was bartering "I'll trade you a goat and 2 rabbits for a night with your wife" or primitive money with conch shells or snail shells....money exists for the reason that otherwise.....it would all be theft "I'll jus' take that from you - I haven't anything to give you in return because money doesn't exist"
that sounds like a really fuckin' great state of affairs doesn't it?
Actually, think of it like this. Each and every democratic government has to sway to the desires of us the public - as the driving motivation for them is to get votes to stay in power the next election....they don't get us to do what they want. They see which way the winds blowing and sway with it.
Originally Posted by P.E.N.G.U.I.N.
don't throw this in my face saying "Well, why isn't pot legal then - why don't they listen?" it's because it's something that will gain them a minority of votes yet lose them a majority. It's simple politics...
I agree here. Except - it's a system of control that (generally) the people who are controlled are those who choose to be...
Originally Posted by P.E.N.G.U.I.N.
They don't determine what I see, nor what I feel, nor what I like, not what I love, nor what I hate, nor what I buy, nor what I refuse to, nor what restaraunt I frequent. None of those things.
Originally Posted by P.E.N.G.U.I.N.
If the people in power determined what I saw - I wouldn't be able to trip. If they determined what I felt - I wouldn't get stoned. If they dictated what I liked - they I wouldn't like my lifestyle as it stands due to parts of it being illegal in nature. If they dictated what I loved and hated - then I would not only love these people in power, I would also not hate them...restaraunts is the most ridiculous point in the universe lol, since when do those in power steer us to the nearest 'Abra Kebabra' Or whatever instead of Kentucky Fucked Chicken...?
For the record - I don't pay tax currently, nor do you - we aren't giving them money. And I don't think any of us think that the people in power are role models.
If that's your attitude to us who don't see we're being fooled - why spend such a lengthy time explaining this to us?
Originally Posted by P.E.N.G.U.I.N.
So, you're demanding us to think for ourselves. Seems a bit contradictary in nature
Originally Posted by P.E.N.G.U.I.N.
. They gave their life not for us. They gave their life because of orders. If we're talking Iraq - I don't think anyone should be fooled into thinking that by attacking a pissy little country like that is defending us.
also, if they don't exist yet - you aren't really giving your life for them. You're giving your life for their would be parents, if you're giving it at all lol.
By definition, they commit no crimes - as they are the law makers...they are able to make it so that what they do is not a crime. Patriotism I simply don't understand, in the UK I feel there is less of a sense of national pride than there is in USA...why take pride in what is essentially a mass of land that's existed so long before you and will exist so long after you....?
Originally Posted by P.E.N.G.U.I.N.
Fuck you too :-)
I believe I have, quite articulately
Originally Posted by P.E.N.G.U.I.N.










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