That is IT!

[DazedNblazed]

Who the fuck inspired this thread anyhow.

DazedNblazed Reviewed by DazedNblazed on 03-23-2006. That is IT! Okay, everyone. I was just reading a thread "Teacher vs. Me" and I think the majority of you are ignorant fuckers willing to let life pass you by. You were all flaming the kid for being ignorant, not respecting those who have died for us, and for being a blatant pothead. You know what? Fuck you all. It's people like him with the BALLS to stand up who are going to advance, not the people who thrash those brave enough to stand up. Government is a ruined ideal, Religion took a left turn to Rating: 5

[insanity]

and that would be what exactly? call the white house complaint department? or go there in person? maybe you haven't noticed... (you do seem pea-brained) but many many many people have complained before and got no where, it is veeeeeeeeery rarely anyone is ever heard.... everyone's got their own opinions on shit... how often do you see any of it being publisized, or the complaints/complaintants being taken seriously? you call him narrow minded, yet all you can say is "quit your bitching and do something" when there is, not a thing he can do... and back to the age thing, is it really fair that just because someone isn't 18 that they're not taken seriously cuz "their only kids" if so... then old people shouldn't be taken seriously either, becasue they're only old people... descrimation of one's views due to age is wrong, no matter how old or how young you are....

I mentioned somethings he could do... like working at a foodbank or an inner city elementry school. The age thing is an issue, because his opionions seem to be formed off a sophmoric understanding of history.

[slipknotpsycho]

ok yea he can go help out and set an example.... but that doesn't take care of alot of his concerns he voiced in his post.... honestly, how would him volunteering (you said work, and in most states you can't work at that age, or it's very limited) change the screw ups the govt. has in it? how is that going to change the fact the world is driven by greed? you know awhile back, i had a thought (i was like maybe 10 or 11) what if everyone just came together as a community, and worked together, no money, and no one was left out... of course, we'd still need some type of govt./policing system... but how much better off would the world be if everyone worked together, to provide for each other, to protect each other... the only thing that prevents (probably in your words "stupid idea, or unrealistic") is the fact that the world is driven by greed... and that alone keeps every aspect of what i dreamt of when i was young, impossible to work... i can even take it further then penguin, i think the whole idea of money is just fucked... i mean... i've said it many times before and i'll say it over and over again, the rich only get richer and the poor only get poorer.... the poor work their ass off to survive, while the rich sit in a nice a/c'd office, doing absolutely nothing but talking/writing/typing or the like... how is that fair in any way??? it's not, and there's no way you can even begin to justify it... and any of you can flame me all you want, i really don't care.. cuz i'm confident in the fact that i have a mind and excersize the ability to use it on my own, to form my own opinions.. to not listen to what everyone tells me and assume it's right just because they were elected into a place of power....

[insanity]

Dude, advocating anrcho-libertarianism does not make you a fucking free-thinker. It's been advocated before and it has been done a lot more eloqunetly then you do. And then you have the balls to challenge my ability to be a free thinker? Part of being a free-thinker is being able to synthesize facts and formulate an original opinion. All the facts that Penguin used are highly subjective (and inacruate).

I've spent so much time correcting you, now I will give you my view:
Government has two functions, one is protecting the general welfare of its citizens (a spinoff of Rousseau), and the other is national security. As a society since the Cold War, we have negelected the general welfare for a hawkish security policy driven by fear to keep the powers that be in order. However, there is a way out.
By getting people involved in the workings of the government, we can deliver election victories that are so overwhelming they can not be ignored. We have to stand firmly for soical equality and justice and elect candidates who do the same. We need to run for office and build a movement from the ground up. Basically, we need to do what the conservatives did in the 60s and orginize a national movement. The pendullum will swing back one day. We can not stop to whine and bitch, we can only work harder every day.

[Kronus76]

allright, first off, ---ATTENTION SLIPKNOTPSYCHO--- i saw a comment you made on my first post on this thread. You mentioned that you weren't out of high school, but for some reason i think youve said youre married. i remeebr you making references to your wife a lot, am i imagining things or what..? but yeah, i gotta still stick behind my accusations on high school kids not having credible opinions on deep thinking questions like this. im sorry, but life is based off of EXPERIENCES, experiences that take years and years to accumulate, once youre off living on your own and not having mommy telling you what to do, then it would make more sense.

teenagers can speculate as much as they want, but living through various events that help you construct these opinions is more credible

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

Wrong.

So wrong.

"Getting people involved" My friend, let ME clue you in on a couple of things.

Number one, people are already as involved as they can be. If there's something seriously stressing them, they go out and write a letter to their congressman (been there, done that)

Number two, the government institutions for helping the needy are poor at best. Not only are thousands of people kept from benefiting from these programs which they so desperately need, but the funding for the programs is being slashed. This country is in a multi-TRILLION dollar defecit from things ranging from Hurricane Katrina to the War in Iraq. In order to cope with the massive debt, budgets are being cut, and guess which ones are getting cut first?

[CocaCola]

LOL

I'm an idiot? What about spewing "oh the government is evil... wooo, bad man trying to hold me down.' Suck it up and fucking deal with it like a man. These kids want to change something, go out and do it. Run for campaigns, and if you're not old enough, help out with campaigns for local leaders who YOU like. This country isn't going to anarchy anytime soon as you're all wanting, so you better elect leaders you like that will change and reform! Start an organization... bitching and moaning on a cannabis message board, of all places, is not going to change shit.

I see you're 17.. maybe once you get out of high school and into the real world of college/job/taxes/bills, you will see how much good government does for us, but there is always the bad shit that everyone bitches about. That's always a given with any governing body. Listen dude, I'm not trying to flame Penguin, you or anyone else, but you all really just need to expand your minds a little bit... they're so narrow and closed. You all act like everyone is out to get you..

Contrary to your belief, the older you are means you have more EXPERIENCE in dealing with the world.. you know how things work. Never said that being older makes you smarter, but more often than not.. it does. Susceptive to lies? Honey, I don't watch Fox News and CNN with all their media biases, as you might think. Hell yeah the government lies... but the government isn't all bad. Cheers!

I'm talking about your ego. It's more then government lies, it's lies about yourself and your place in society. But yeah, I guess the way everything is set up in this country is responsible for the low uptake of useful information to the brain... and that is the governments fault. So I guess yeah, they are evil... and deceptive. They do no good... they show good but really the entire world would be better off with the foreboding US government.

You think the more you progress through your meaningless life, the more your mind opens up to new things? Thats your brain trying to find some entertainment in this dull country.

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

allright, first off, ---ATTENTION SLIPKNOTPSYCHO--- i saw a comment you made on my first post on this thread. You mentioned that you weren't out of high school, but for some reason i think youve said youre married. i remeebr you making references to your wife a lot, am i imagining things or what..? but yeah, i gotta still stick behind my accusations on high school kids not having credible opinions on deep thinking questions like this. im sorry, but life is based off of EXPERIENCES, experiences that take years and years to accumulate, once youre off living on your own and not having mommy telling you what to do, then it would make more sense.

teenagers can speculate as much as they want, but living through various events that help you construct these opinions is more credible

Shut up. I'm not doing this or speculating because mommy told me so, and I don't need to have LIVED in this country any longer than I have to know what's going on. What makes living 10, 20, whatever more years experiencing the same shit I do so special?

Not only that, but thinking that you have to experience something to know is something so asenine and naive, it's hard for me to even begin. Do I live in a ghetto? No. Do I know what it's like in a ghetto? Yes. Am I the President? No. Do I know what the President can, can't, will, and won't do? Yes.

It's not a matter of experience, it's a matter of knowledge. Experience is just another way of aquiring knowledge, just as much as RESEARCH is.

[CocaCola]

Dude, advocating anrcho-libertarianism does not make you a fucking free-thinker. It's been advocated before and it has been done a lot more eloqunetly then you do. And then you have the balls to challenge my ability to be a free thinker? Part of being a free-thinker is being able to synthesize facts and formulate an original opinion. All the facts that Penguin used are highly subjective (and inacruate).

I've spent so much time correcting you, now I will give you my view:
Government has two functions, one is protecting the general welfare of its citizens (a spinoff of Rousseau), and the other is national security. As a society since the Cold War, we have negelected the general welfare for a hawkish security policy driven by fear to keep the powers that be in order. However, there is a way out.
By getting people involved in the workings of the government, we can deliver election victories that are so overwhelming they can not be ignored. We have to stand firmly for soical equality and justice and elect candidates who do the same. We need to run for office and build a movement from the ground up. Basically, we need to do what the conservatives did in the 60s and orginize a national movement. The pendullum will swing back one day. We can not stop to whine and bitch, we can only work harder every day.

I stopped reading your posts after your last one... would you just stfu with historical facts and statistical bullshit and discuss the matter at hand? Working at a foodbank is nice, but it won't don't shit all. You're so fucking blind it shows... you make these essay posts with facts and shit but you completely miss the point of this thread... all I caught in this post was "anrcho-libertarianism" and when I saw that I couldn't read on. Stop labelling his idea... that's not even what it is... and don't come back with some facts about anrcho-libertarianism for christ sakes, you'll just make yourself look more like a fool.

[slipknotpsycho]

allright, first off, ---ATTENTION SLIPKNOTPSYCHO--- i saw a comment you made on my first post on this thread. You mentioned that you weren't out of high school, but for some reason i think youve said youre married. i remeebr you making references to your wife a lot, am i imagining things or what..? but yeah, i gotta still stick behind my accusations on high school kids not having credible opinions on deep thinking questions like this. im sorry, but life is based off of EXPERIENCES, experiences that take years and years to accumulate, once youre off living on your own and not having mommy telling you what to do, then it would make more sense.

teenagers can speculate as much as they want, but living through various events that help you construct these opinions is more credible

since when is it required to graduate high school to be married? i am married and i did NOT graduate high school, and it had nothing to do with me being lazy, a drop out or any of that shit so i wanna cut that off right now.. the only, and i mean ONLY reason i didn't graduate is because my grandma had me homeschooled for the last portion of my school life, then when i was 18 i found out that it wasn't reconized by the state of texas, so all my hard work went to shit... i went back to public school (only allowed to stay in public school, atleast in this county til you're 20, then you have to pay for it which i did not, nor do i have now the money to do so, kind of ironic isn't it? i have to have money to go to school so i can make money...) and was supposed to be in an accelerated program but my stupid counselor would never get off her ass and put me in it, or for some other reason didn't work out (been awhile, i was pissed back then i was basicly given a giant middle finger and pissing on my foot)

now onto the next thing... and tell me, mr. so original thought... how is your thoughts original if there are only 2, maybe 3 sides to this debate in the first place... no one's thoughts are original but those thinking outside the box... next, from what i remember, it doesn't even matter what the people vote for in the presidental elections, it all comes down back to the electoral college... so it doesn't really matter how many people vote.. because your govt. just gave you a gian middle finger and told you your thoughts don't fuckin matter... and if you think the dick heads actually check the polls of what the american people want, you're sorely mistaken... i still don't understand how anyone, and i mean ANYONE on this site can be for the govt.... atleast the one america has now... when none of you, and i mean NONE of you actually follow the laws set by your precious govt. since they are the ones that decide whether or not our precious plant is illegal in this country....

i don't think half of you actualy stop to think of what you're actually saying, i think you just want to argue cuz you have nothing better to do, stress build up, sexual frustration, the list could go on and on.... and some of you seem to just want to use big words, to impress others, but don't actually think what your words mean... your words mean this (those saying the govt. is fine and dandy): YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE period. there's no two ways about it... if you think you're govt. works fine when people speak out what they want, then stop smoking weed until it is legalized in the USA... if you're going to support this shit you call a govt. don't do it half-assed.. do it right. if you're so sure the govt. works the way you all like to make it seem, then do the right thing and stop knowingly/willingly commiting these crimes (smoking weed is a prime example) and go ahead and you do it by the system...

another thing, if age matters, and age effects wisdom... why are there kids that are 15-16 that are fucking geniuses, yet there are 30-40 year olds working at burger king, and still having problems on how to make a whopper? age doesn't make a dick when it comes to wisdom, experience does, but age doesn't dictate experience in any way, shape or form. i can't prove anything, but from the way some of you talk, i'm willing to bet i have experienced more, learned more and absorbed more knowledge in my 20 years of life then most of you have or will have by 30.....

it really fucking bothers me that most of you twist shit around so that it fits your needs, whenever it's convienent rather than staying true to yourself and everyone else... prime example: you are supportive of the govt. and think it has little or no problems, and that the system works just fine, yet you smoke weed while it's still illegal... like i said, if the system works just fine, stop fucking smoking illegal drugs until your precious govt. that knows what's best for you and would never wrong you, declares it safe and legal... which, atleast i'm realistic when i say i doubt it will ever happen, because then the govt. would have to eat it's own damn words, and they know this... and as it's shown us before, eating it's own words is not something it does....