Survival

[Euphoric]

At the first sign of danger i will begin to devour nearby humans much like a frightened mother rodent with young

[Oneironaut]

Even if the government did totally collapse, the vast majority of Americans are currently in favor of having a centralized government, and there are lots of groups which would immediately start building armies and governments (lots of people have political agendas, remember). And what with all the crisis it is entirely possible a lot of people might be receptive to a very strong totalitarian-like government. In any case, it's hard to imagine a scenario in which the government suddenly collapses due to some crisis and the people are just okay with that.

And contrary to what you might think, the chaotic state of affairs caused by a government collapse is not "anarchy". The word anarchy comes from the Greek for "without rulers". Anarchy describes a society where nobody can force their will upon other people by means of threats or violence. But of course, in such a of social chaos caused by sudden collapse of the government, there would be lots of groups trying to enforce their wills on others. It would not be anarchistic at all. Real anarchy could only come about by a conscious revolution of the masses to reject all coercive powers, be they presidents, legislators, policemen, bosses, landlords, gods, priests, murderers, rapists or thieves. Anarchy is not the lack of large scale social organization. Quite the opposite—such organization is absolutely necessary for anarchy, but it has to be strictly democratic, egalitarian, bottom-up organization, without any power hierarchies or central authorities.

[Torog]

Howdy Oneironaut,

Say..have ya eve heard of the Tri-States scenario ? I could imagine such a 'goverment',popping up in the South..what say you ?

Have a good one ...

[Oneironaut]

No, I haven't.

[Torog]

No, I haven't.

Howdy Oneironaut,

If ya do a google search for "Tri-States philosophy",you'll see what I mean.

Have a good one ...

[beachguy in thongs]

Howdy beachguy,

Lol..

Say..I like yer signature area..and I was wondering if you have a link for that marijuana is God's child too foundation,it don't seem to be an active link.

Have a good one ! :stoned:

Lol, no I haven't set up the foundation, yet.

[Torog]

Lol, no I haven't set up the foundation, yet.

Howdy beachguy,

Oh...lol. Well it sounds like a good idea to me ! :thumbsup:

I believe with all of my heart and soul,that God created cannabis,along with every other seed-bearing herb and plant,for our own use-as we see fit. And for some folks to say that some of God's creations are bad and some are good,is like spitting in God's face.

It makes me wnat to stomp into the court-room next month,and ask the judge-just who in the heck do you think that you are-to decide which of God's creations are good and which are bad ?!

Have a good one ! :stoned:

[Oneironaut]

Howdy Oneironaut,

If ya do a google search for "Tri-States philosophy",you'll see what I mean.

Have a good one ...

From what I can find about the idea, it seems to be that if we just return to the original constitutional principles everybody will be happy and corruption will never creep into politics again. All we have to do is keep the government from interfering too much in our lives and everything will be okay.

The problem, of course, is that power corrupts. In all of history there has never been an authoritarian social structure (a hierarchy in which some people have the power to force their wills upon others) that has resisted this maxim. When you give people power, a lot of them will abuse it. Reforming the power structures will not bring us freedom, nor will replacing the existing power structures with new ones. Only abolishing them can do that. The only way to get rid of people abusing power and money is to get rid of power and money.

From the Stone Age to the Spanish Revolution, history shows again and again that societies can run according to egalitarian principles, and that all authorities are unnecessary as well as harmful to liberty. We have been able to live without state and economic authorities before, and there is nothing preventing us from doing it again. I can only conclude that we would be much better without legislators and bosses, if we had instead a libertarian communist system in which everybody was on equal footing and had no authority to dictate to others what they must and must not do. Anything short of that is not "freedom and justice for all".

[GluteusMaximus]

First off a punk from vietnam??? Are you kidding me???? Thats pretty insulting considering how fucked things were over there, you didnt need to say that at all. Cant blame the guy for taking his life, im sure it fucked with him and you make it sound like its his fault. Im glad you said that right off the bat cause IMO that labels you as a fat mouthed punk bitch who thinks he knows everything and talks like it.......

boy you are a little detective arent you! I love it! The fact is i AM living with life the way it is, just because i hate it doesnt mean i cant deal with it because thats what im doing right now ya fucktard. I really enjoy how you try to finger out who i am and how i am from my little rant. You blow it way out of context pal!! Me saying i drool or get a hard-on over the thought is just me poking fun at myself. Never said i would do anything single handedly so i dont know how you pulled that out of your ass. Its not nessecarily a fantasy but i do like the idea alot.

"Anyone with you will soon learn that you're self centered, ignorant, narrow minded and unable to adjust to your surroundings like you've already admited and soon they will put you out of their misery."

wow man i cant believe you pulled that out of a few paragraphs, you are fucking amazing!! You amaze me as much as the guy that talks to the dead. Talk about assumptions here bud, the thing is everything you say about me is an assumption and it cracks me up that you actually took the time to write it all out when in the end its just an assumption mixed with your opinion but of course you are entitled to it in the end. When you go out on a limb like you did you break the limb and fall on your stupid ass. You seriously think you can figure me out that easy?? Because i say i have alot of hate towards life and america??? That has ignorance and stupidity written all over it. If you were to meet me on the street you wouldnt even know all this or even have the slightest clue!!! Did you not read the multiple times i said that it all depended on the circumstances and nobody can know how it would unfold and that it was just a fucking plan in the end?? Or maybe you just skipped that part and responded anyway. I know your gonna respond to this with more i know you better than you know yourself bullshit and thats cool, thats just who you are but i probably wont respond back to it because it wil just end up going in circles.

If you were to examine my life you would see that it isnt that bad of a life and i have been blessed to be able to be raised in a middle class family in a safe neighboorhood and have more opportunities than most people and have parents that worked hard for me. You act like im totally obilvious to what i have in life(when you have no clue about it) or that i dont appreciate it when i do but i am just not satisfied with what most people are satisfied with. What is dubbed a normal life i could never be satisfied with. The hate part that isnt normal for my circumstances and i dont know why i hate life so much but people like you sure as fuck dont make it better. I am curious as to what you have to say next, whatever it is it wont suprise me. The government thing well i mean how could you like politics and governments?? Its a shady business and were there is that much power it can be manipulated. You writing that rant is just as stupid as my scenario plans.


Go back and read what i said because most of what you say doesnt even apply to what you said, its all hypothetical, its just a plan, an idea whatever you wanna call it. You need me to go look up what a fantasy is for you bro?? You enter a fantasy world everytime you go to sleep or daydream. Your imagination is based upon fantasy, so get the fuck off my back for some stupid shit like this, my god man. What the fuck is your problem??

"First off a punk from vietnam??? Are you kidding me???? Thats pretty insulting considering how fucked things were over there, you didnt need to say that at all. Cant blame the guy for taking his life, im sure it fucked with him and you make it sound like its his fault. Im glad you said that right off the bat cause IMO that labels you as a fat mouthed punk bitch who thinks he knows everything and talks like it......."

Lets start with that^^^^

You can't blame the guy because you're sure it fucked with his life? That just goes to show you prefer to assume the world is one thing when indeed it is another. That punk from Vietnam was a punk long before he joined. He went over there thinking he was going to become some type of war hero and never saw one bit of action. He returned with stories about his "combat action" and we later discovered from others stationed with him that he never saw action and made up his "hero of the army" fantasy. I suggest you quit jumping to conclusions as it makes you look like a fool.

God, it's hard to find a place to begin so here goes. I find it very easy to analyze you. You are as shallow as a comic book. There are many just like you and it's clear that you have a desire to live out a fantasy that you yourself construct as you go along. I simply pointed out that you lack the ability and sense to be able to survive in a "real" chaotic situation. How do I know this?....simple, you mentioned hitting gun stores, pharmacies, killing the guy who sells you dope for his stash, defending a farm, surviving bullet wounds which only hit your arm....on and on...obviously showing you only desire to see yourself challenged with the survival in a dream where you can't possibly die.

This discussion only demonstrates that you are only venting your frustrations on anyone who exposes you for what you are. It's real easy to determine when a child is immature, it doesn't take more than a few sentences out of his mouth to show he's got a lot of growing up to do. So yes, I can easily analyze you from the few contradicting paragraphs you posted. They are simple constructs of rather shallow thoughts which show your total lack of intelligence.

I compare you to a child who spends more time in fantasyland than in realityworld. I know, I know, this is all just a "what if" scenario, but your solutions to each scenario only shows that you prefer to be in a world that you can control with a trigger instead of a complex world requiring much more to make it better.

Finally.....I DID re-read your posts and have seen so many contradictions in the very same paragraphs! Dude, you are seriously unfocused, incapable of discussing a subject intelligently, running off in every direction until you find one that works, you personally attack readers who challenge you, only showing that you use re-direction as a means to avoid exposure as the incompetent you are. Yes I am a "fat mouthed punk bitch" who can debate intelligently on subjects of fact or in your case fantasy. I took great pleasure in exposing you to the other readers because I can't stand to see someone bullshitting others even if it is in a "fantasy".

I'm certain you'd wet yourself at the first sign of trouble and be dead from friendly fire before you ever reach your hideout.

GM

[da haze meister]

you know a 5.56 nato round clip weighs about a lb, so your talkin 63 lbs there that you wanna take on a bike?? thats unrealistic under these circumstances

posting stuff like that and blaming it on being high is just ludacris, dont do that shit, your ruining your credibility here

i have been here like 90 times as long as you. i definitely have more credibility. please do not disrespect me, i dont want a flame war. i made a rough estimate asshole, i didnt go weigh out a .223 clip, as i dont have one. i was talking about .45 anyway, and i wasnt implying all of the ammo in clips.