grim reefer your new to this game bro. i been here for a while now, reading almost everything posted here, iam here to help out people here with hands on skills. in my line of work i was tought hands on, getting the best from older people who has done it for a while . i didnt learn my skills by reading a book. if i was to let the cat out of the bag, you and alot of other newbies would think of me differently. god like, lol :thumbsup: garden knowm re-read your post you made to postman dave and think.