MOBAY VS KARMAXUL THOUGHTS

[turtle420]

Hey gK, Karm,

Here, this is a good re-cap of my fogging troubles... post #550
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthrea...=34726&page=22

Here it is, quoted:

What up Buk?!

Don't know 'bout the seeds homes... But the strain sounds good... :thumbsup: :dance:

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Update:

I re-LSTed heavy dutily the mothers... don't want them touching the bulbs... I cut off 8 very good, long, bushy, secondary growths... gonna make some clones!

I took a 5 gallong bucket, placed an air stone at the bottom, filled it almost to the top with GH clones mix, and CalMag PLUS.

I placed a lid (from a square plastic "shoe box") on top... drilled 8 holes, placed the clones... taped them down (yeah, tape), used some paper clips for support... (note::: in the picture, the paper clips aren't present... I added them later... and I didn't take a picture... becuase I ain't Master Splinter...)

Placed a 9W (40W) CFL on top of them ('bout 12 inches).

The lights are on 18/6... the new 300CFM fart fan gets ON for 5 minutes, every 55 minutes.

Um.... target success rate this time around: 100%

Past success rates:
v1.0 = -30% (burned to a crisp)
v2.0 = 0% (died quickly)
v3.0 = 10% (life support for 13 days was it?)
v4.0 = 40% (kept alive with fog, for aprox 10 days... some rooted... most perished)

v5.0 = ??? 100% ??? let's see in 7 days.

If they all root, I'm placing 4 in the fog root chamber (yet to be improved upon... crap). The other 4 I'd be placing in.... SOIL!!!

Making new mother plants... more, um, manegable. :dance:

Wish for all of you the best... I don't know if I'll have time to re-log in before I go, but if I come across an internet cafe, I'll definitely check the boards. I won't post... but I'll read if there's anything... (so c'mon Buk, pPuff, Skilz, Gen, gK, and all turtle-friends... )

Peace out, and please sen good vibes over to the clones...

Best wishes,

-turtle420
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I think that my main problem has been the big Sterilite tub as a root chamber.

My new thoughts (if I give up the 5gallon buckets DWC) is to have two 5gallon buckets, on plant each, and have those buckets as the root chamber.

Before, I had the NutraMist placed OUTSIDE my cabinet... so, my 300CFM exhaust fan, pulled the fog right out of the "fog chamber" (Sterilite tub). So my roots got dry.

I'm thinking that I can go around that by using the two 5gallon buckets... because then there'll be more space inside the cabinet, and I can then place the NutraMist unit INSIDE the cabinet. That way, the 300CFM exhaust fan will create a vacuum inside the cab, but it won't pull the fog out so fast.

This making any sense???

SECOND idea set:
I don't know what to do with the fog ON/OFF cycle. I cannot have the NutraMist unit running constantly ON because it's TOO MUCH fog... simply too much. Fog everywhere... then it would condensate into water... on EVERY surface... fans, walls, inside, outside, floor, boxes, shoes, articles of clothing... etc.

So, because of this, I'm trying to run the fog in ON cycles of a couple of minutes (1-3) every 10 minutes.

My last timer schedule was 3minON/7minOFF.

What do you guys think?

I know it's a long-ass post... but, what the hell... either this or a discussion about Dungeons and Dragons.

Thanks guys, peace and good vibes to all,

-turtle420
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[karmaxul]

Turtle are you saying that the fog is coming up from the net cups or you are fogging the air. I am a bit lost. Have you run the unit for budding or just tryed cloneing with it?

[Garden Knowm]

yes, the systems I have seen the fog comes up from the cups... Turtle.. you need to figure out away you can leave it on all the time without the fog turning your room into a freaking rain forest..

LOL

well, it sounds like you know what happened.. you roots dryed out..
correct?


: )

[karmaxul]

What if you mixed shag moss or something in with the grow rocks?

[mobay]

this is the fogger i used in my res, turtle420, the fogger sat in a floatable cup.

[postmandave]

would any one like to explain the foggers job for us uneducated ones lol,mobay?.

[turtle420]

Turtle are you saying that the fog is coming up from the net cups or you are fogging the air. I am a bit lost. Have you run the unit for budding or just tryed cloneing with it?

Sorry... didn't explain correctly. Yeah, I'm using the fog for the roots. No hydro systems (DWC, NFT, Ebb&Flow), only fog. So far, I've only run the unit for cloning... but, after that, they die on me because of the exhaust fan being turned ON.

yes, the systems I have seen the fog comes up from the cups... Turtle.. you need to figure out away you can leave it on all the time without the fog turning your room into a freaking rain forest..

LOL

well, it sounds like you know what happened.. you roots dryed out..
correct?


: )

LOL!!!

Rain forrest... that's the best way to describe it gK! I turn my room into a dampy, foggy rain forrest.

Leaving it ON all the time? Hmmm... darn it... the other thing is the water consumption... I'll post the numbers later today, but the water consumption of the unit would have had me filling it up every 3 days... ??? Wow!

What if you mixed shag moss or something in with the grow rocks?

I dunno... let's try it...

this is the fogger i used in my res, turtle420, the fogger sat in a floatable cup.

Thanks Mobay... question: That was a "dual" hydro system, right? It was the fogger, and... DWC?

would any one like to explain the foggers job for us uneducated ones lol,mobay?.

lol Dave...

Foggers create a very fine particle (4, 5 microns???) which is able to float in the air. So, intead of the typical hydro setups, you "fog" your solution, and you have your roots soak in the foggy air/solution thing.

There's supposedly a couple of benefits to using foggers... but, if I don't get my plants to live, I won't be able to know... lol !!!

Thanks for the inputs guys!!!

Have a GREAT day!!!,

-turtle420
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[graph]

Sorry, I'm about to be really lazy. When you get the time, can you post the benefits? Any of you?

[mobay]

The ultrasonic fogger turns your water and your nutrients in 15-20 micron water droplets that are rapidly absorbed through the roots. The smaller water/nutrient particles also allow for better oxygen exchange for the root structure. This item alone can increase root structure by up to 40%!!

Simply add your nutrients to the 66qt. nutrient reservoir and watch your plants grow and an UNBELIEVABLY fast rate

[mobay]

on my next hydro grow this will be the next addition to the grow box


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Allows plants to be grown better in higher temperatures (93-99F)
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Lasts for 60-90 days, before needing a refill

Item Name: CO2 BOOST INJECTION SYSTEM
Item Number: CO2-1
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