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    #51
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    Bringing children into headshops?

    Agreed Tadaa. Mostly. Ive smoked all highschool, and graduated top 10%. I'd like to think that I am fairly intelligent, don't think weed made anything wrong. If anything, it helped me be a lot more creative in my writing classes.

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    #52
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    Bringing children into headshops?

    Quote Originally Posted by lemonboy
    First of all, this is a discussion and I respect everyone's opinion. If you can't conduct yourself civilly, don't reply. It's really that simple.

    Of course a kid wouldn't look at cannabis and think about it the same way I do. I don't look at cannabis like I do the first time I was exposed to it and I was pretty much an adult by then. As a parent it is your job to help your child come to a conclusion--to bridge the gaps. I'm not advocating cannabis usage by minors. I'm just not interested in seeing children lied to or sheltered from the reality of the situation in the hopes of keeping them safe for a short while. You're robbing Peter to pay Paul if you play it that way.
    I see your point, but I still dissagree. It is up to the parents to shelter thier kids from things that could potentialy effect them in a negative way. A 'believe' a kid wants to look up to their parents, and to put them in the situation where they are forced to question their parents morals is unhealthy. Teaching them at an early age about an illegal substance, and telling them it's o.k, while our society is fighting tooth and nail to villify it, puts them in that questioning position.

    "Who do I choose"? "My dad, or my teachers at school, My mom, or all the t.v commercials spouting about how harmful marijuana is"? "Well, It is illegall...my parents are telling me it's o.k to break the law"!

    It causes confusion, and could potentialy cause a wall to be built between them and their parents.

    No thanks! I'll stick with being a good role model for mine...

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    #53
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    Bringing children into headshops?

    Quote Originally Posted by JunkYard
    I see your point, but I still dissagree. It is up to the parents to shelter thier kids from things that could potentialy effect them in a negative way. A 'believe' a kid wants to look up to their parents, and to put them in the situation where they are forced to question their parents morals is unhealthy. Teaching them at an early age about an illegal substance, and telling them it's o.k, while our society is fighting tooth and nail to villify it, puts them in that questioning position.

    "Who do I choose"? "My dad, or my teachers at school, My mom, or all the t.v commercials spouting about how harmful marijuana is"? "Well, It is illegall...my parents are telling me it's o.k to break the law"!

    It causes confusion, and could potentialy cause a wall to be built between them and their parents.

    No thanks! I'll stick with being a good role model for mine...
    You're exactly right, it is a parent's job to protect their children from harm. Of course this means yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Lying to them so you can be a good role model in the eyes of society does little good for your child in the long run. What it says is, daddy and mommy lied to me just like the ONDCP lied to me. I simply contend being a good role model, and being a good parent, means operating above the bullshit and treating your children with the respect they deserve. You can't lie to a child for the first 18 years of their life and expect to have a real relationship with them once society no longer has their eye on you. Lying would of course be easier but parenting isn't easy and nobody said it would be.

    I place my child's mental health and LIFELONG well-being far, far above your need to look like the model citizen to Uncle Sam and the folks down at the PTA. Parenting isn't about validation, regardless of the tax breaks.

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    #54
    Senior Member

    Bringing children into headshops?

    imo you gotta teach your children the truth about drugs and theyre place in the world, law etc and the both posotive and negative effects that can come out of smoking mj from a very younge age...

    this way they can make the decision for themselves when they are ready

    and wont hate you for filling theyre minds with bs, only to "let them in" on something you've been aware of your whole life when they turn 18

    be real man. just real

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    #55
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    Bringing children into headshops?

    Quote Originally Posted by lemonboy
    You're exactly right, it is a parent's job to protect their children from harm. Of course this means yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Lying to them so you can be a good role model in the eyes of society does little good for your child in the long run. What it says is, daddy and mommy lied to me just like the ONDCP lied to me. I simply contend being a good role model, and being a good parent, means operating above the bullshit and treating your children with the respect they deserve. You can't lie to a child for the first 18 years of their life and expect to have a real relationship with them once society no longer has their eye on you. Lying would of course be easier but parenting isn't easy and nobody said it would be.

    I place my child's mental health and LIFELONG well-being far, far above your need to look like the model citizen to Uncle Sam and the folks down at the PTA. Parenting isn't about validation, regardless of the tax breaks.
    It's about the 'childs' (The childs) well being. If you choose to teach your child that it is o.k to break the law, and confuse him at an early age, be my guest. I'm not worried about looking good to the powers that be, or the pta, or what have you. My concern is teaching my child right from wrong, and maintaining a good relationship with him. If you suggest that teaching them that it's o.k to break the law is better than teaching them morals, I'll have to question your motives.

    Sorry,

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    #56
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    Bringing children into headshops?

    sometimes your morals may conflict with the law.

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    #57
    Senior Member

    Bringing children into headshops?

    law dosent mean shit

    lemonboy is just bein bare bones real about it

    the govt. dosent depict whats wrong/right to everyone

    a select few can see through their attemps to do so

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    #58
    Senior Member

    Bringing children into headshops?

    Quote Originally Posted by hellomandude
    law dosent mean shit

    lemonboy is just bein bare bones real about it

    the govt. dosent depict whats wrong/right to everyone

    a select few can see through their attemps to do so
    Which is the very reason I still toke up. I'm old enough to know the difference. My beef is about subjecting a child to differentiate between what is accepted law, and personal opinion about that law. Making them choose at an early age between the two can have negative effects on the child. Not to mention between the child and the parent.

    I'm done with this topic. We all have our opinions on how we should raise our children, and what is important to them at an early age.

    We disagree, which is fine. I've made my point, and lemonboy has made his.

    We disagree...no harm done.

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    #59
    Senior Member

    Bringing children into headshops?

    Quote Originally Posted by JunkYard
    It's about the 'childs' (The childs) well being. If you choose to teach your child that it is o.k to break the law, and confuse him at an early age, be my guest. I'm not worried about looking good to the powers that be, or the pta, or what have you. My concern is teaching my child right from wrong, and maintaining a good relationship with him. If you suggest that teaching them that it's o.k to break the law is better than teaching them morals, I'll have to question your motives.
    It sounds like to me that the disagreement is towards the status of cannabis and the legalization movement, not children. No, it's not okay to obey the law simply because it's the law. It's right there in the Bill of Rights. The people have a right, nay an OBLIGATION to overthrow the government if it becomes tyrannical. And yes, this is one of the first lessons she will learn because ironically the public school system teaches kids that the government can do no harm.

    My "morals" and "values" come from my heart and upbringing. They are not dictated to me by Uncle Sam and his ever-changing book of laws. The most conservative people in this country homeschool their kids for these very reasons.

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    #60
    Senior Member

    Bringing children into headshops?

    Quote Originally Posted by lemonboy
    The most conservative people in this country homeschool their kids for these very reasons.
    lol >>>>homeschooled here<<<<<<

    i guess you thought i was an adult

    just so you know these p.o.v's are coming froma 16y/o who does very well in school and is quite mentally healthy regardless of the fact that i started smoking at a very younge age

    my parents never really tried to 'shelter' me from anything. they realize that i am a person and when it comes down to it i am going to make my own decisions

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