Bringing children into headshops?

[daima]

I understand what you are saying Daima, and agree with most of it. And, I used the example of my wife giving me head only to illustrate a point, not because I thought anyone was advocating it. I guess I just didn't explain my point well enough.

Sex, drinking, marijuana use, etc. are adult activities. Educating them about these activities, and being open and honest with them, is definitely the best approach. That doesn't mean you should involve them in these activities, however. I'm sure most of us would agree we wouldn't give a 2yo a shot of Jack Daniels, a bong hit, or intentionally bring them into the bedroom to see mommy and daddy together. The question then, becomes one of where do we draw the line between education and involvement? IMO, bringing them into the headshop while you buy a new pipe or bong dangerously straddles that line.

Greetings friend,
IMO involvement means Education. Marijuana use is an adult activity in America and many other nations. There are also many nations where cannabis use is totally accepted by youth with their parents.
It was the Iowa School of Nursing, DeanMelanie Drier @ Iowa University, who tells us about her research when it came to Ganja using parents using Ganja with their children, and then compariing her findings to those who didnt use cannabis with their children. She concluded that parents who used Ganja with their children, some as young as age 4, had stronger bonds between parent and child than the non-cannabis using families did, they spent more time reading and teaching their kids than the non ganja using parents/kids did, and the respects levels between parent and child were that we america only hope for. The Government has tried to get her to "be quiet" about her findings, but she refuses. Many tribes inAfrica also have this practice.
I have used cannabis for 35+ years. I allowed my kids to asked about it, question it, water my plants, and fetch me my bong. Neither of them use cannabis to this day. Crazy huh? My cannabis use has never led me from my parental duties. My kids eat well, have a nice home, clothed well, educated.
I absolutely reject the argument that if kids are somehow introduced to drugs/cannabis that we stand the chance of losing them to a life time of addiction. Science and the School of Nursing agree.
I take 100% responsibility for my actions, both good and not so bright.
IMO society has conditioned us to act in ways that conflict with the human mind and curiosity. Does that make our curiosity wrong? immoral? I say, No.
On a daily basis we are taking our kids into stores that sell much more dangerous items then you see in a headshop. Do we not take them in stores?
IMO people do more damage to kids by restricting what they see and hear, then we do by allowing them to see and hear it without an honest explaination/debate. That old movie "Carrie" is a great example. That poor kid, because of the strong religious beliefs held by her mother, and her mother hiding things from her all her life didnt even know what a period was. When it happened she was tormented and scared and thought she was going to die. I will not allow that to happen to those i love.
I really doubt that any of us have to worry about our two year olds getting stoned , or catch them giving one another head. What they see on TV is more likely to make that happen.
In my house drugs arent a dirty word, nor is sex. They are human topics that need to be discussed openly and honestly, and we aint getting that from our government. That is my job, not bush's or clintons, or anyone elses.
I could never, nor would i ever, drag my kid to a rehab center. But thats me.
I would never worry about my child being curious to what a dildo is, or a joint, or a bong. These things are objects and things that need to be discussed. The next time you drive down the highway, or through town, or across the country, take the time to look at whats advertised to our kids. That scares the hell out of me, but i would never advocate having them removed. They give us a chance to have conversations with our kids. I emphasize on the word "us", the parent, the guardian, those who love our kids the most.
My kids know that the love i have for them is much deeper than anything on earth. I will not violate that trust by hiding things from them, or not allowing them to make an informed decision..., question what they see.

dai*ma
If you really love your kids and care about them,here's what i suggest
Blow up your TV. Allow them to ask ANY question thats on their developing lil minds. Never lie to them or hide things from them. Introduce them to music and people from all walks of life. NEVER humiliate them. NEVER hit them.
TRUST them. And trusting them is much easier when they are informed.
Most kids think kissing is ewwwwweeee yuk at 6 years old, and girlshave cooties/kooties. I doubt that giving head never enters their mind. If they are "accidently" exposed to the act? Ahhhhhhh no one ever said that parenting and explaining things to kids was a piece of cake. The time has come to be honest and open with them. They deserve that at any age and it's us the parents responsibilty that we do it honestly. Some kids actually believe that Oral sex isnt sex because of what formed prez clinton said about it after he got caught. gee whiz. lmao.
This is my opinion and i believe that every person is entitled to it :dance:
I am sure that most people in this forum that have kids, love their kids with all their hearts.

daima Reviewed by daima on 03-21-2006. Bringing children into headshops? I was at the local headshop last night picking up some fuel for my torch lighter, and I was just wondering, is it normal to bring children into headshops? There was one guy in there with his son, I'm guessing the son was about 6 or 7 years old, and the dad was showing him all the bongs, and pipes. The store is littered with pieces, everywhere! Then as I was leaving, a women brought in her daughter in a baby carrage. Like a toddler. I didn't say nothing because it's none of my business, Rating: 5

[Fengzi]

One thing is for sure Daima, although I may not agree that bringing a child into a headshop is a good idea, I can see that you have taken a very active role in bringing up your kids and this is what's most important. Too many people just take parenting for granted, don't think about what they are doing, and just hope the kids will work out. It's not always about whether the specific choices that you make are right and wrong. The fact that a person takes an active role with their kids, and makes the choice in the first place, is what makes them a good parent.:thumbsup:

[daima]

One thing is for sure Daima, although I may not agree that bringing a child into a headshop is a good idea, I can see that you have taken a very active role in bringing up your kids and this is what's most important. Too many people just take parenting for granted, don't think about what they are doing, and just hope the kids will work out. It's not always about whether the specific choices that you make are right and wrong. The fact that a person takes an active role with their kids, and makes the choice in the first place, is what makes them a good parent.:thumbsup:

Your comment means a lot to me. Allowing the TV to raise my kids, or people who dont have the interests and love that i have for my kids, just isnt an option. Unfortunately many in our country are programmed and both parents have to work just to make it. The kids are the real losers when this is the case. I am also fortunate enough to of earned a living without working for a factory, corporation/another person. There were times when i was on the road and didnt see my kids, but the time i was there? you couldnt separate us. I am also fortunate enough to be semi-retired now. My whole life is now dedicated to my family. I give guitar lessons to kids less fortunate here in San Francisco two times per week, and furnish those who cant afford a guitar with one to use. I use a sliding scale for payments. Those that can pay, pay what they can. Those that cant pay, but the desire is there, it's free. Mnay of the kids i teach come from a family where one of the parents are in prison. Mostly drug related crimes, which is why i am so outspoked against the drug war(if you noticed lol). Any hoot. I just vaporized some of my bubble hash and that really activates my thought process, which means..i could go on and on,but you seem like a cool cat and because of that i just cant see putting you through it
Once again Fengzi, thanks for the compliment. I appreciate it.

dai*ma:stoned:

[tadaa]

OH MY!!!! a two headed dildo. Run for your lives!!!!!:dance: :dance:
I know plenty of dildo's with one head. Ya dig?
As for your thoughts on why half the kids are fucked up, and you seem to believe it's because of parents like me? Thats funny. We feel like it's because of people like you. wowie:dance:

dai*ma:thumbsup:
Imagine......900 acts of violence on TV every day, and you call being exposed to sex toys bad. If i may say so, thats what i call being ignorant.
Being informed doesnt mean particpating. Being informed means better choices. Sex toys arent that scarey to you, are they? Have you been attacked by one? Robbed by one? ====
I'll tell you what else is ignorant. Sending your kids off into a world with stupid uninformed people. Thats down right dangerous. I'm glad my kids and grand kids know what a condom is. I'm glad my kids and grand kids know about cannabis, drugs, booze, tobacco, sex. Odds are in my favor that when they encounter these things on their own that the decisions they make just may save their lives. Kids are 3 and 4 watching violent acts every day.
My kids? they play music. They work. They are responsible human beings.
They know how to ask for a condom. They know how to talk to their friends when they see their friends make unhealthy choices. Call me a bad parent if you want, but that doesnt necessarily make it so. Bad parents dont give a fuck what happens to their kids and they dont seem to mind lying to them. I dont lie to my kids, and i care enough about them to not let Mr. goody two shoes tell them what morals they should be encompassing.:stoned:

Exposing a 10 year old girl to sex isn't smart parenting. She isn't going to encounter a sexual situation at fucking 10 years old. If you want a slut for a daughter than go right ahead.

Based on your logic there's no limitation to how and when a child is exposed to something because it makes them more "educated". So based on your logic you would take your 6 year old son or daughter to an execution at a prison so she can see someone fry on a chair alive to see what death is all about. We have very different opinions of education. I'm gonna go out on a whim here and say that your kids don't have a college education, and probably won't. But I'm sure that's a big coinsidence:thumbsup:

[da haze meister]

Exposing a 10 year old girl to sex isn't smart parenting. She isn't going to encounter a sexual situation at fucking 10 years old. If you want a slut for a daughter than go right ahead.

Based on your logic there's no limitation to how and when a child is exposed to something because it makes them more "educated". So based on your logic you would take your 6 year old son or daughter to an execution at a prison so she can see someone fry on a chair alive to see what death is all about. We have very different opinions of education. I'm gonna go out on a whim here and say that your kids don't have a college education, and probably won't. But I'm sure that's a big coinsidence:thumbsup:

you are an imbecile. your comments are so stupid, that everyone reading them is somewhat dumber.

[daima]

Exposing a 10 year old girl to sex isn't smart parenting. She isn't going to encounter a sexual situation at fucking 10 years old. If you want a slut for a daughter than go right ahead.

Based on your logic there's no limitation to how and when a child is exposed to something because it makes them more "educated". So based on your logic you would take your 6 year old son or daughter to an execution at a prison so she can see someone fry on a chair alive to see what death is all about. We have very different opinions of education. I'm gonna go out on a whim here and say that your kids don't have a college education, and probably won't. But I'm sure that's a big coinsidence:thumbsup:

Here's a great idea. go to channel 2, turn on "switching partners", and get back to me. Prime Time baby.
My kids know better than to believe the "slut"theory" lmao
I am not the one exsposing my kids, nor have i ever exposed them to anything but the truth, pal. I did however take the time explaing to them what they see when they asked, and it will always be ok for my kids to ask me anything. If you got a problem put the blame where it belongs , society.
We are a anti death penalty family. Its racist and the state should not be allowed to execute human beings. i have taken my kids in the past, and my grand kids to San Quentin Prsion to protest state sponsored murder.
My daughter is a Photographer and works for Macys, and is working on her PhD @ Santa Clara University, in Santa Clara California(Silicon Valley)
My son is in the Marines. Graduated second highest in his class. Married his high school sweet heart. Neither of them use cannabis, drugs, booze, tobacco. You didnt go out on a whim. You went out thinking you know more than you know and looked more like a fool.
dai*ma
We got little kids with guns fighting inner city wars
So what do we do? we lock these little kids behind prison doors
And we call ourselves the advanced civilization
But that sounds like crap to me
And we are living in the wasteland of the free

We got high school kids runnin' 'round in Calvin Klein and Guess
Who cannot pass a 6th grade reading test
But if you ask them, they can tell you
the name of every crotch on M-TV
And you point your finger at me
and the way i raise my family? :dance: :dance: :dance:
I will consider the source. :stoned:

[king kong bong]

Exactly. I'm all for one for hanging out with my children, when I have them, and have some puffs with them, when they understand cannabis fully and know that everything schools, teachers, and television spew out about it is not true. I know when I was 6 or so, I thought all drugs were bad. It didn't matter what kind of drug, but if it was illegal, I really thought it was bad.

you're fueling the propaganda. if you dont believe weed to be a drug and not bad for you, you shouldn't worry bout kids going into a headshop and seeing all the pipes and bongs. you should be showing them that there's nothing wrong with weed.

[king kong bong]

the sex thing, i have no clue how children are exposed to it but they are. the other day i was in a park shooting around and i hear these 10-11 year olds talking bout girls and fuckin and whatnot. i couldnt believe my ears, these children were fuckin tiny lookin like 4th or 5th graders. so no matter what you do, they are gonna be exposed to sex.

[kbrbudhead]

Well, I'm a new dad; My boy is almost 8 mos. old. I've probably got a ways to go before all of the questions pop up, but I do plan on at least keeping the tv off. I watch cartoons, the history channel, bbc america, the only music channel worth a shit is bet jazz. But for the most part my kid so far hasnt been exposed to propoganda except for the occasional toy commercial. I'm an aspiring musician- 23 and I've played guitar since the age of 4. My dad kept his pot secrets from me until I actually found out from a friend in high school that he had smoked with him and his dad. I was confused at the time because we essentially shared the same views on the herb, but i found out later that he mainly kept it from me so my mother wouldnt find his stash too. I plan on keeping my habit to myself until hes at least 15. By then he would probably be asking all of the right questions. Like "shoud I trust the goverment?"

later yall

[CocaCola]

That's one of the reasons such things should be taught at home and not dictated by the government. I would never "shelter" my child from things I KNOW to be right so they would have a seemingly easier time socially. I find it queer that anyone would want their child to just "fall in line" for those first couple of years when you've already pointed out how vital they are developmentally. Shouldn't these be the years we teach kids to ask questions and to never stop asking questions?

^^ And forever should be.