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    #1
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    What Are Your Beliefs?

    I know there is countless threads on peoples beliefs, but as time goes on and people learn new things and different experiences happen in our personal life, beliefs and hopes change. What do you personally believe in?

    -I believe God is whom we make it to be, but he is inside of our soul.

    -I believe in evolution and the growth and change of human, such as how we are naturally taller than we were back in the day. Partially credited to vitamins and proteins, Partially the natural change and variation of homosapiens?

    -I still have no decision or belief on how we actually got onto earth.

    -Im not too sure what happens when we die, One thought of mine, is maybe we wake up. Wake up in a different place, maybe in "heaven" as a flawless version of our old self, Maybe in someones elses shoes on this planet, or a far away galaxy. Perhaps we just end up in eternal blackness.

    -I believe in ghosts and demons. I think that for certain reasons and occurances, ghosts can come on earth and communicate and send signals. I think that demons can possess people, but not randomly, a thought out reason for it in our soul, from God.

    -I believe in luck and superstition, but to a slight degree, Sending a chain letter wont save some young little boys life, but i do think that murphys law of doing something bad and having it come back and get you is a direct effect of our souls balance.

    What are your takes on this crazy life of ours?
    Junket Reviewed by Junket on . What Are Your Beliefs? I know there is countless threads on peoples beliefs, but as time goes on and people learn new things and different experiences happen in our personal life, beliefs and hopes change. What do you personally believe in? -I believe God is whom we make it to be, but he is inside of our soul. -I believe in evolution and the growth and change of human, such as how we are naturally taller than we were back in the day. Partially credited to vitamins and proteins, Partially the natural change and Rating: 5

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    #2
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    What Are Your Beliefs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Junket
    -Im not too sure what happens when we die, One thought of mine, is maybe we wake up. Wake up in a different place, maybe in "heaven" as a flawless version of our old self, Maybe in someones elses shoes on this planet, or a far away galaxy. Perhaps we just end up in eternal blackness.
    I think, if anything, we return to the world we left behind. How appropriate would that be?

    Then again, we may just cease to exist...

    Regards,

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    #3
    Senior Member

    What Are Your Beliefs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Junket
    -I believe God is whom we make it to be, but he is inside of our soul.
    I'm an atheist. Since I make God out to be a fairy tale, does that mean he is one?
    -Im not too sure what happens when we die, One thought of mine, is maybe we wake up. Wake up in a different place, maybe in "heaven" as a flawless version of our old self, Maybe in someones elses shoes on this planet, or a far away galaxy. Perhaps we just end up in eternal blackness.
    What evidence do you have for any of that? When you get down to the bottom of it, you shouldn't believe in anything unless there is sufficient evidence to believe in it. Otherwise you are just engaging in wishful thinking.

    -I believe in ghosts and demons. I think that for certain reasons and occurances, ghosts can come on earth and communicate and send signals. I think that demons can possess people, but not randomly, a thought out reason for it in our soul, from God.
    What evidence do you have for this?

    -I believe in luck and superstition, but to a slight degree, Sending a chain letter wont save some young little boys life, but i do think that murphys law of doing something bad and having it come back and get you is a direct effect of our souls balance.
    What evidence do you have for the existence of souls?

    What are your takes on this crazy life of ours?
    I think we have to look at reality for what it is. I know gods and souls sound like neat ideas, but that doesn't make them true. We don't know where the universe came from. We just don't. And there's nothing to suggest that there's a "God" interfering with our planet. Everything down here seems to operate completely predictably according to the laws of physics.

    As for our "souls", we have already found them. They are our brains. Like it or not, all our thoughts, our emotions, our loves and hates are just chemicals and neurons in our brains. When some of those brain cells are destroyed, we lose some of our thinking capabilities and our personalities. When a lot of those brain cells are destroyed, we lose a lot of our thinking capabilities and our personalities. When all of them are destroyed (i.e. when we die), we lose all of our thinking capabilities and our personalities. It's not necessarily the most comforting explanation, but it is the correct one. We have to realize that so we can make the most of the few decades we have on this precious planet.

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    #4
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    What Are Your Beliefs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut
    I'm an atheist. Since I make God out to be a fairy tale, does that mean he is one?

    What evidence do you have for any of that? When you get down to the bottom of it, you shouldn't believe in anything unless there is sufficient evidence to believe in it. Otherwise you are just engaging in wishful thinking.


    What evidence do you have for this?


    What evidence do you have for the existence of souls?


    I think we have to look at reality for what it is. I know gods and souls sound like neat ideas, but that doesn't make them true. We don't know where the universe came from. We just don't. And there's nothing to suggest that there's a "God" interfering with our planet. Everything down here seems to operate completely predictably according to the laws of physics.

    As for our "souls", we have already found them. They are our brains. Like it or not, all our thoughts, our emotions, our loves and hates are just chemicals and neurons in our brains. When some of those brain cells are destroyed, we lose some of our thinking capabilities and our personalities. When a lot of those brain cells are destroyed, we lose a lot of our thinking capabilities and our personalities. When all of them are destroyed (i.e. when we die), we lose all of our thinking capabilities and our personalities. It's not necessarily the most comforting explanation, but it is the correct one. We have to realize that so we can make the most of the few decades we have on this precious planet.
    Well, tell me this. What do you believe started life? Life in its self is so advanced especially when you look at the complexity of humans. How could something with any intelligence exist with nothing advanced behind it? The odds are impossible. It would be like advanced software just appearing out of nowhere to make an analogy. You may want to sound like your just being logical but, in all actuality, it takes more faith to believe we appeard out of nowhere then it does to believe in a God.

    We have to realize that so we can make the most of the few decades we have on this precious planet.

    And what is precious about our lifes if there is no God? Ultimately, we live in a dieing universe. At some point in the future, the Earth will cease to support life, the sun will stop burning, and our universe will collapse. So ultimatly, whats the reason for life? The whole existance of man will make no ultimate diffrence to anything, and strictly to the point, life is absurd. There would be absolutly no reason to it.

    I'm sorry that you have no faith in God and I wish you would reconsider (for your sake). Don't take this as an insult or anything, I can't change you. It's your choice.

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    #5
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    What Are Your Beliefs?

    Hey, I got one for the 'flock'

    It's called:

    â??War Against The Nightâ??

    Damn the beast against the light
    Damn the blindness he bestows upon the people of this world
    Damn the beast, and his night
    Cry disgust when you find true light-blind victims of the night

    (Then wage war against the darkness!)

    Pardon not the preacher, politician, lawyer, teacher
    lest he turn from mischief-deciet
    But lend pity unto the flock, the trusting, the blind, the meek
    Awaken them from their sleep

    (And free them from the illusion!)

    Confusion, delusion, the doctrines seduce them whole
    The stories are as yeast is to bread and steal their soul-decieved
    We walk not in the peace of them, but among them-they the wolves
    dressed in white they spread their night

    (diseased)

    Our people are killed for lack of knowledge
    The denial of what is real
    As they give praise to the lies
    The wolf steals, then kills, and bills

    So stand now on reality, and hold honesty up high
    Build your house upon this rock, and sound your battle cry
    The lion roars, and a giant you now must fight
    pick up the stone of honesty, and let her devour the night

    Reality shall be your light!
    Honesty shall be your fight!
    Wage war against the night!
    War against the night.

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    #6
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    What Are Your Beliefs?

    BAH NO WORRY =D INFINITY IS BIG DONT YOU THINK?
    damn caps =P
    as I said in another thread I believe in both God and humans and science and wathever has the only good intention...too love for our survival nothing else matters really

    love makes the world go round =)

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    #7
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    What Are Your Beliefs?

    i believe no truth can be seen until death, therefore you can really just do wahtever the fuck you want.

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    #8
    Senior Member

    What Are Your Beliefs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kokujin X
    ...Ultimately, we live in a dieing universe. At some point in the future, the Earth will cease to support life, the sun will stop burning, and our universe will collapse.
    Youâ??re missing a few major things in this statement. The first is that the Universe is not dieing, it's expanding not contracting. Not to mention that our Universe appears to be flat, exactly flat, not open or closed. (I say appears because it's a recent idea, but so far it is strongly supported by observational data and theoretical ideas.) We don't know the reason for our flat Universe and we probably wonâ??t for a long, long time. There are too many other questions to answer first like what is this dark energy that is causing this expansion? What other influences does it have? What does it consist of? You should be more careful of shooting out "true" statements like that one.

    "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist the facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts." -Sherlock Holmes

    Einstein made a satirical comment about the same thing:
    "When the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts."

    Out of curiosity: Where did you get the idea of a collapsing Universe anyway? What was the sources evidence for it?

    On to the fate of the Sun and Earth: We have (that is if we don't get destroyed by ourselves or a major natural cataclysmic event first) a little less then 4.5 billion years to prepare for the destruction of the Earth by the Sun. (These are one in the same: "...the Earth will cease to support life, the sun will stop burning...") It only took our species only a few thousand years to go from building spears to building rockets. Cosmic rays are the only major problem holding us back from colonizing other planets and moons. Once we develop a way to stop those from killing us in space, we'll be set not only for Mars but other stars as well. (Well resources may be a problem as well. To make it to other stars we need to build a ship big enough to hold enough people to stop from inbreeding.) It might be possible to solve both the cosmic ray problem and the inbreeding problem through biological technology. That is if we developed a way to repair our damaged or malfunctioning DNA.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kokujin X
    I'm sorry that you have no faith in God...
    Where science starts is where religion begins.
    Science is a combination of skepticism and open mindedness. How can you ask someone to believe in something without any proof it exists? I'll provide an analogy by Carl Sagan (he writes it much more elegantly, but I summed it up to make it shorter):

    I tell you that I have a dragon in my garage but you want me to prove it exists. However, when I open the garage door, I reveal nothing but empty space. You ask "where's the dragon?" and I say, "oh it's here, but it's invisible." Your not convinced, so you suggest a few ways of testing it's there; put flour on the floor to look for footprints, throw paint on the dragon to make out it's shape, move around the garage to try and touch it and use an infrared camera to detect his body heat and breath. But for every method you suggest I have an explanation for why it wonâ??t work; the dragon levitates so you won't see the footprints, the paint wonâ??t stick to the dragon, he's ethereal so your arms will go right through him, and he's a heatless dragon so the infrared camera won't detect his signal.

    In the end we still have no idea if the dragon is there or not, but whatâ??s the difference does it make if the levitating, ethereal, heatless dragon is there or not? My point is how can you believe (or at least expect others to believe) in an idea if you can't prove it actually exists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kokujin X
    And what is precious about our lifes if there is no God?
    How wouldn't it be? We're stellar ash that has the ability to understand and manipulate the Universe and world around us. Our Earth is the only planet known to harbor not only intelligent life, but any life.

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    #9
    Senior Member

    What Are Your Beliefs?

    Quote Originally Posted by sm0k1t
    ...science and wathever has the only good intention...
    What about the hydrogen bomb? it's not even close to being good thing.

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    #10
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    What Are Your Beliefs?

    Edit: I ment "Where science ends is where religion begins."

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