Wow. this is a really long thread now. I couldn't read pas the first few pages, but here's my 2 cents. The gun wasn't loaded. the pipe was jammed into the chamber = no shell. in a normal situation, this would be dumb, but fuck it. it was vietnam. Chances are those guys are either dead or suffering some horrible shit from agent orange. Looked fun to me. Might be worth trying with a piece of pvc pipe.