i don't believe in war (not protesting either i know i'm never going to change a basic human instinct) but i do feel really sorry for all of those who've experienced what they have, and for the families who've lost loved ones.... i coudln't imagine what it woudl be like to be just walking around doing your "job" then all of a sudden you've got mortars, tank rounds, massive machine gun fire and god knows what else coming right at you... yea i think even taking a 'shotgun' from a loaded and cocked shotgun would be the last of my worries about right then... to graph yes i know, i was just making my point as well, somtimes you just have to be the better man and step down because some 'idiots' just won't give up til they're proved 100% wrong or they go to their deathbed. by your posts i can tell your mature enough to understand this, just a friendly reminder that it's better to just give up sometimes then keep arguing with idiots who think they know everything.