Hah, im not that new to this, i was a member on overgrow until i woke up one sad morning, ive read just about everything any of these sites have brought to me and that was the one thing i never saw. SO have you guys made up your minds yet on what it is? im not asking lumens per square foot, im asking how many lumens would it take from start to finish, at its least while the plant still lives happy until harvest comes around and i murder it.