Just got some Peruvian Torch

[Savako]

i had some great times with that peruvian torch...but consuming it was always a problem...yeah when it sits with a liquid and becomes a sludge, so horrible!....i was able to greatly decrease the taste with a chaser if maneuvered right. Recently i used size 000 gelatin pills, they work pretty well but each pills holds about a gram, and it gets pretty bad eating a good amount of those huge pills. Nausea was never actually too big of a problem, i usually only throw up if i eat over like 45 grams or so. I always felt the nausea during the first hour or so while coming, but it always subsided soon after.

Horrible? BAH thats all in your head... trust meh .

[w4terb0ng]

i'd probably go with caps myself. although, i've never done it. i've mixed with water. BIG MISTAKE. it turned all gooey and snotty looking. VERY difficult to get into your stomach. i've also mixed with oj and drank it. that was a pretty nice experience. the thing i've always done is drink plenty of oj or lemon juice beforehand. like 30 minutes prior. or take some vitamin c tablets. get plenty of vitamin c in you, as the acids are supposed to help with activating the alkaloids or something to that effect. i've also cooked it down with a Real Lemon bulb and water. EXTREMELY salty taste...but oh boy, quite the strange "trip".


whatever's clever.

[harmonicminor]

I was thinking about just taking pieces of bread and flattening and making pills with that or maybe even dough. :thumbsup:

[Solistus]

Pills et al seem like a ton of work for 30+ grams of material. Is it really that hard to spoon it under your tongue and wash it down wth OJ? That's the method I picked as seemingly the easiest.

[harmonicminor]

yeah it will stick to your mouth all over and it is very bitter. the more you try the worse it becomes, I could only get down 10 grams that way.

[w4terb0ng]

it took me about 30 minutes... but i've done it.. twice. just swallowing the shit with oj/water.

[Mindzeyecreationz]

I was thinking about just taking pieces of bread and flattening and making pills with that or maybe even dough.

I like the bread idea--seems easily feasible--not that I would try it though--let me know harmonic:thumbsup:

[Solistus]

MasterBaker - how was your experience on 30g? My friend who has experience with other psychedelics was planning on trying 50g for his first dose. Is that a good starting point, or is it too high/low for a good first experience? He doesn't want to overdo it, but he doesn't want to go through all the trouble of eating the powder only to find out he dosed too low, either. While on the subject of doses, can doses of powdered San Pedro be correlated easily to dosage suggestions on Erowid or elsewhere for pure mescaline, and, if so, what's the approximate mescaline content by mass of the powder?

Also, how often can San Pedro be taken without health risks or tolerance lessening the effects?

[MasterBaker]

with the 30g...well i probably endded up only downing 20g or a little more but to me it felt like just the tip of the ice burg so to say. like i felt all the effects, i felt naucous comming up for an hour but i didnt puke, and then i felt tranquility and my head felt clear, and i was in a pretty happy mood....i didnt hallucinate or have closed eye visuals even, and sound wasnt really distorted which kind of bummed me out a little...but ive never felt so peaceful before. and it definately kept me up at night kinda like the after effects of shrooms..next time i do it im probably gonna split what i have left *somewhere around 90gs* which is prob around 45 grams and see how that is...and i definately recomend putting them in capsules...i have no idea how much mesculine is in peruvian torch or what the conversions are...im pretty sure there arent many if any health effects, i read somewhere that its hard to od on mesculine but i could be misinformed, and i dont know about tolerance as this was my first time. i hope this was some help to you sorry if it wasnt i dont know too much myself as it was my first time but i hope i am of some help to you and your friend at least.

[MasterBaker]

im sure 50g would be just fine...ive heard of people taking 100g+