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[ValiumForMe]

What's up ladies and gentlemen. A friend is trying to grow a bag seed just for shits and giggles. She started it in a paper towel, once the taproot busted free she put into a little 4" clay pot with some 100% organic soil.

She's currently got two 40 watt and one 60 watt compact flouro (they are daylight flouros so the light is a whiute/blue color) about five inches from it. It's about a week old now. It has two big leaves, two smaller leaves and she can see some small ones coming in. It's probably about 2" at this point. She's used no nutes, nothing but bottled water. She has it on a timer with a 18/6 cycle.

She just bought three (she thinks 150 watt) 2,000 lumen compact flouro lights, these ones aren't the daylight variety so she thinks they will be more yellow than blueish white. She also bought two more reflective light hoods to point that light in the right direction. She also bought a bigger pot (3 gallon) some rooting horomone powder and some perlite and a small fan to strengthen the stem.

Her questions are:
1. Is she using the right lighting cycle?

2. When should she transplant it?

3. Can she do it now or should she wait until it gets bigger?

4.When she does transplant it should she mix perlite with the organic soil?

5. If so what mixture %?

6. Should she be adding Nutes?

7. If so, what kind?

8. Should she stick with the less lumen blueish white bulbs or use the higher lumen yellowish bulb? It would be 4,000-6,000 lumens.

9. How far should she keep them from the baby?

She already read that great thread about transplanting so she has it figured out HOW to do it, she'd just like to know when.

She will send me some pictures to upload when she gets home.

ValiumForMe Reviewed by ValiumForMe on 03-15-2006. New Grower What's up ladies and gentlemen. A friend is trying to grow a bag seed just for shits and giggles. She started it in a paper towel, once the taproot busted free she put into a little 4" clay pot with some 100% organic soil. She's currently got two 40 watt and one 60 watt compact flouro (they are daylight flouros so the light is a whiute/blue color) about five inches from it. It's about a week old now. It has two big leaves, two smaller leaves and she can see some small ones coming in. It's Rating: 5

[greenmonster]

too man questions man..... find a online grow FAQ thingy and go from there. 'weedfarmer' has loads on it

[ValiumForMe]

would it kill you to answer like one or two of them. I have a broken hand right now so internet navigation is a bit tricky.

[ValiumForMe]

Perhaps simply answering the transplanting question would help her out

[greenmonster]

ok ok:
18/6 is fine for veg,
transplant when the pot is full of roots-not brimming but a root ball,
use perlite or similar yes,
add nutes for sure if soil has none, if it does dont go overboard,
high in 'N' for veg, thats the first number so 15-5-5 or such,
keep ur blue fluros as close as u can get um but make sure u have fan on them to keep um cool and to build up strength in stem.
im talking too much: havent smoked today but its turning up in bit: nyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa need a spliff!
hope this helps

[ValiumForMe]

Thank you. How can she tell when the pot is full of roots, it's clay and unfortunately she doesn't have her x-ray specs.

Pics will be posted in a bit...

[smoknjoe]

I would wait until it got bigger. Some people wait until the roots show through the drainage holes.

I would consider beginning a nutrient regimen soon, using extremely diluted ferts, and working your way up to full strength over time. Its good that she is using clear water (no nutes) for the seedling. You might want to consider organic nutes.

Dont know alot about the other topics.

Good luck!

[greenmonster]

gently seperate the plant and pot a little and if the soil stays together and is filled with roots its time to pot on (rootball). now there is probably a much better way of doing things but this works for me. Just dont be heavy handed and its probs best if ur wrist is fuckoed to let someone else do it. be real careful not to damage plant when ur doing this. If you place ur hand over the top of the pot with the stem prodruding from inbetween 2 of ur fingers you can turn it upsidedown and lift the pot a bit to see what the rootball is like without damaging the plant. seen horties do this with other plants all the time....
its just common sense man.....

[ValiumForMe]

What nute number? 15-5-5? How does she mix it she has like a 1 liter spray bottle, say that was full of water, how much nutes should she add? I'm assuming you add the nutes to the water and let them dissolve?

I'm sorry but she has no clue what she is doing and could really use and really appreciates the help!

Also, should they be sprayed at the beginning of the night cycle since that is when the photosynthesis is taking place?

[ValiumForMe]

gently seperate the plant...

:beer: gracias