Complex organic soil mixes

[Crispyfried]

I've decided not to use chemical fertilizers, due to environmental issues, and it just seems better to keep edible and smokable plants organic. So I've been doing some research, and it seems that a mix of perlite, worm castings, and peat or coco coir should provide a good base soil mix. Then there's stuff like volcanite and other natural minerals that can be added, plus small quantities of fertilizers such as bat guano, seabird guano, kelp, and various types of composts. Is there anything else that is good to add?

Crispyfried Reviewed by Crispyfried on 03-10-2006. Complex organic soil mixes I've decided not to use chemical fertilizers, due to environmental issues, and it just seems better to keep edible and smokable plants organic. So I've been doing some research, and it seems that a mix of perlite, worm castings, and peat or coco coir should provide a good base soil mix. Then there's stuff like volcanite and other natural minerals that can be added, plus small quantities of fertilizers such as bat guano, seabird guano, kelp, and various types of composts. Is there anything else Rating: 5

[britewire]

Kelp is great for when the plants are small and root development. Perlite is just neccesary and Guano is the GOD under organic fertilizers.

[Earthy Dank]

Manure is very good... Make sure its a year old. Blood meal and alittle bone meal is a good mix. Here is a chart....


Organic Nutrient Chart

Organic Nutrient Chart
Manures

Rabbit manure N= 2.4 P= 1.4 K= 0.6
comments- Most concentrated of animal manures in fresh form.

Cow manure (dairy) N= 0.6 P= 0.2 K= 0.5
comments- Often contains weed seeds, should be hot composted.

Steer manure N= 0.7 P= 0.3 K= 0.4
comments- Often contains weed seeds, should be hot composted if fresh.

Chicken manure N= 1.1 P= 0.8 K= 0.5
comments- Fast acting, breaks down quickest of all manures. Use carefully, may burn. Also, stinks like hell - composting definitely recommended.

Horse manure N= 0.7 P= 0.3 K= 0.6
comments- Medium breakdown time.

Duck manure N= 0.6 P= 1.4 K= 0.5

Sheep manure N= 0.7 P= 0.3 K= 0.9

Worm castings N= 0.5 P= 0.5 K= 0.3
comments- 50% organic material plus 11 trace minerals. Great for seedlings, will not burn. Is a form of compost, so doesn't need composting.

Desert Bat Guano N= 8 P= 4 K= 1
comments- Also contains trace elements. Fast-acting, mix in soil or as tea (1 C guano to 5 gal. water).

Cave Bat Guano N= 3 P= 10 K= 1

Fossilized Seabird Guano N= 1 P= 10 K= 1
comments- Slow release over 3 to 12 weeks, best used as an addition to potting mix.

Peruvian Seabird Guano (pelletized) N= 12 P= 12 K= 2.5
comments- Legendary fertilizer of the Incas. Use in soil as a long lasting fertilizer, or make into tea (1 tsp pellets to 1 gallon water).

Note: it is recommended to first compost any fresh manure before you use it for 2 reasons:
to lessen the chance of harmful pathogens.
to break down the manure to make it more usable to the plant (and reduce the smell!)
The rates for pig or human manure are not listed because of the high rate of harmful pathogens they contain.




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Organic Meals

Blood Meal N= 11 P= 0 K= 0
comments- Highest N of all organic sources, very fast acting if made into tea.

Bone Meal (steamed) N= 1 P= 11 K= 0
comments- Releases nutrients slowly. Caution: European farmers should not use because of the risk of spreading Mad Cow Disease; growers elsewhere may face the same issue.

Cottonseed Meal N= 6 P= 2.5 K= 1.5
comments- If farming organically, check the source. May be heavily treated with pesticides.

Fish Scrap N= 5 P= 3 K= 3
comments- Use in compost or work in soil several months before using. Usually slightly alkaline.

Fish Emulsion N= 4 P= 1 K= 1
comments- Also adds 5% sulfur. Good N source for seedlings, won't burn.

Kelp Meal N= 1 P= 0.5 K= 2.5
comments- Provides 60 trace elements, plus growth-promoting hormones and enzymes.

Soybean Meal N= 7 P= 0.5 K= 2.5
comments- None

Coffee Grounds N= 2 P= 0.3 K= 0.2
comments- Highly acidic, best for use in alkaline soils.

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Minerals

Greensand N= 0 P= 1.5 K= 7
comments- Mined from old ocean deposits; used as soil conditioner; it holds water and is high in iron, magnesium, and silica - 32 trace minerals in all.

Eggshells N= 1.2 P= 0.4 K= 0.1
comments- Contais calcium plus trace minerals. Dry first, then grind to powder.

Limestone (dolomitic) N= 0 P= 0 K= 0
comments- Raises pH, 51% calcium and 40% magnesium.

Limestone (calcitic) N= 0 P= 0 K= 0
comments- Raises pH, 65-80% calcium, 3-15% magnesium.

Crustacean Shells N= 4.6 P= 3.52 K= 0
comments- Contain large amounts of lime. Should be ground as finely as possible for best results.

Wood Ashes N= 0 P= 1.5 K= 7
comments- Very fast acting and highly alkaline (usually used to raise pH). Contains many micronutrients.

Crushed Granite N= 0 P= 0 K= 5
comments- Contains 67% silicas and 19 trace minerals. Slow release over a long period of time.

Rock Phosphate N= 0 P= 3 K= 0
comments- Contains 11 trace minerals. Slow release over a long period of time.

Epsom Salts N= 0 P= 0 K= 0
comments- Provides Mg and acts as a balancer.

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Soil Amendments and Organic Material

Cornstalks N= 0.75 P= 0.4 K= 0.9
comments- Break down slowly; excellent soil conditioner. Should be shredded.

Oak Leaves N= 0.8 P= 0.35 K= 0.15
comments- Break down slowly, shred for best results. Good soil conditioner.

Feathers N= 15 P= 0 K= 0
comments- Chop or shred finely for best results.

Hair N= 14 P= 0 K= 0
comments- Good soil conditioner, oils break down slowly. Chop or shred finely for best results.

Sources include: Rodale Encyclopedia of Organic Gardening, The Deluxe Marijuana Growers Guide (Frank and Rosenthal)

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Organic Fertilizers - Composition

Organic soil composition involves creating a soil medium that has a balanced amount of nutrients - NPK as well as trace elements and minerals - plus organic material that provides food for not only the plant, but also the countless soil microorganisms, fungi, worms, and bacteria that comprise a healthy soil. This soil life breaks down the raw materials of the fertilizers you add so the plants can absorb them, and also plays a part in as-yet undefined processes that aid plant growth and improve soil health.

Below are various "recipes" for both organic fertilizers and organic soil mixes.

Mix and match formulas

Pick one source from each category. The results will vary in composition from 1-2-1 to 4-6-3, but any mixture will provide a balanced supply of nutrients that will be steadily available to plants and encourage soil microorganisms.

Nitrogen
2 parts blood meal
3 parts fish meal
Phosporous
3 parts bone meal
6 parts rock phosphate or colloidal phosphate
Potassium
1 part kelp meal
6 parts greensand
source: Rodale Encyclopedia of Organic Gardening

More Organic Fertilizer Mixes

2 - 3.5 - 2.5
1 part bone meal
3 parts alfalfa hay
2 parts greensand
2 - 4 - 2
4 parts coffee grounds
1 part bone meal
1 part wood ashes
2 - 4 - 2
1 part leather dust
1 part bone meal
3 parts granite dust
2 - 8 - 2
3 parts greensand
2 parts seaweed
1 part dried blood
2 parts phosphate rock
2 - 13 - 2.5
1 part cottonseed meal
2 parts phosphate rock
2 parts seaweed
3.5 - 5.5 - 3.5
2 parts cottonseed meal
1 part colloidal phosphate
2 parts granite dust
2.5 - 6 - 5
1 part dried blood
1 part phosphate rock
4 parts wood ashes
0 - 5 - 4
1 part phosphate rock
3 parts greensand
2 parts wood ashes
3 - 6 - 3
1 part leather dust
1 part phosphate rock
3 parts seaweed
3 - 7 - 5
1 part dried blood
1 part phosphate rock
3 parts wood ashes
3 - 8 - 5
1 part leather dust
1 part phosphate rock
1 part fish scrap
4 parts wood ashes
2.5 - 2.5 - 4
3 parts granite dust
1 part dried blood
1 part bone meal
5 parts seaweed
4 - 5 - 4
2 parts dried blood
1 part phosphate rock
4 parts wood ashes
6 - 8 - 3
2 parts fish scrap
2 parts dried blood
1 part cottonseed meal
1 part wood ashes
1 part phosphate rock
1 part granite dust

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Herbal Tea Plant Food

1 t Comfrey leaves
1 t Alfalfa leaves
1 t Nettle leaves
1 Qt boiling water
Steep for 10 min. and let cool until luke warm. Drain the leaves out and add the luke warm tea to your plants to keep them healthy and vibrant!

The reason for adding slightly warm tea (or water) to your plants is that they will be able to absorb the needed nutrients more easily by keeping the root pores open verses cold tea (or water) will have a tendency to restrict the pores, meaning a much slower process of absorption.

Comfrey is called knitbone or healing herb. It is high in calcium, potassium and phosphorus, and also rich in vitamins A and C. The nutrients present in comfrey actually assist in the healing process since it contains allantoin.
Alfalfa is one of the most powerful nitrogen - fixers of all the legumes. It is strong in iron and is a good source of phosphorus, potassium, magnesium and trace minerals.
Nettles are helpful to stimulate fermentation in compost or manure piles and this helps to break down other organic materials in your planting soil. The plant is said to contail carbonic acid and ammonia which may be the fermentation factor. Nettles are rich in iron and have as much protein as cottonseed meal.

[karmaxul]

Nice post. Mad props.

Irish moss is high in b 12 to grow for replenishing the soil

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[Crispyfried]

I had no idea there were so many organic options.

[karmaxul]

Many options all plants have different biochemical components. I mix barley in with my soil for calcium, dont know if it does anything but it was on sale.

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[Earthy Dank]

For awhile I didn't wanna do organics because I thought it was more expensive... But actually you make your own fertilizer making it free... Its healthier and improves taste and studies show that it prevents the degrading of the strain (which chemicals do).

[kdspecial]

Awsome chart and great post. this summer I am doing a balcony grow with vegtables not just weed. Since im growing veggies I'm hoping to upgrade my soil value from promix to A more organic solution. I have things available to me like Sheep manure, ProMix, Perlite and some Bone meal and blood meal. All plants will be in containers. (Including my lowryders and hybrids)

Any ideas on the ratios I should mix these at. Since im in a apartment I mix in small amounts.

One thing im still kind of concerned about is. I have nutes like Botanicare Pur Blend Pro, And BIO Gensis High Tide/Synergy Shich work greta with my promix.

Will I be needing these Products with my more organic Mix? I know I haven't added any K in my osil SO I guess I will l have to add that when the Bloom happens in the tomatoes etc. but should my soil mix listed above cover me through Veg'in or basic plant growth.

I really wanna learn more about organic gardening, I want to be able to give my GF plants that she can just use plan water with and not have to worrie about measuring nutes etc.

Any help is greatly appreciated...

thanks kindly
kd

[aziz93]

Awsome chart and great post. this summer I am doing a balcony grow with vegtables not just weed. Since im growing veggies I'm hoping to upgrade my soil value from promix to A more organic solution. I have things available to me like Sheep manure, ProMix, Perlite and some Bone meal and blood meal. All plants will be in containers. (Including my lowryders and hybrids)

Any ideas on the ratios I should mix these at. Since im in a apartment I mix in small amounts.

One thing im still kind of concerned about is. I have nutes like Botanicare Pur Blend Pro, And BIO Gensis High Tide/Synergy Shich work greta with my promix.

Will I be needing these Products with my more organic Mix? I know I haven't added any K in my osil SO I guess I will l have to add that when the Bloom happens in the tomatoes etc. but should my soil mix listed above cover me through Veg'in or basic plant growth.

I really wanna learn more about organic gardening, I want to be able to give my GF plants that she can just use plan water with and not have to worrie about measuring nutes etc.

Any help is greatly appreciated...

thanks kindly
kd

ANyone have any thoughts on this^^^^^^^^^^