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    the two 15w fl tubes i got dish out 610 lumens.. 1220 lumens right there, the two full spectrum 25w bulbs I got dish out 1750 lumens.. Thats a total of 4720 lumens given off in my bin at a total of 80w, for 4 plants.. however I also hear that reading the lumens given off by a cfl is invalid and inaccurate info.. wats the deal with it?? I'm lookin into buyin a few HID MHs... I wanna sspeed up the growth and make sure i get some good stuff.. ideas? questions? comments?

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    and another question.. I have liquid nutrients for root stimulation.. I'm on day 5.. would putting a little bit of this be dangerous? my babies are on a good start, i wanna make sure they start as strong as possible.. I was thinkin of adding a little bit, and waiting til day 14 to sweep through with my veg nutes, or a combination of both..

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    Pics from Day 4..


    1st pic is overview.. 5th plan hasn't come up, idk.. i'm gettin another to take its place..

    2nd pic is experimental plant 1.. 1st one, closest to the camera in the 1st pic.. it's got that rigid fold at the middle of the stem because the aluminum foil was touching it, baby girl started to gro around it.. u can also see it start to arch, its in a more awkward location than the others.. =\

    3rd pic is experimental plant 2..

    4th pic is control plant 1.. notice the size, compared to a duchmaster..

    good? bad? questions? comments? ideas??

    any answers on the previous questions??

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheist
    ..a few HID MHs... I wanna sspeed up the growth and make sure i get some good stuff.. ideas? questions? comments?
    First I'd like to say the grow's going great, bro. And you have enough lumens right now to keep the plants going for at least a month in veg, albeit a slow one [ until you decide to up the power with a HID ]. Now, you may be hearing / reading a lot of great shit about MH, but I personally prefer HPS for the fact it's a bit more efficient, lumens per watt wise. People will say, "Well, the MH have better CRI and PAR (Photosynthetically Active Radiation) Watts." You can make up for the 2100k, 21 CRI HPS power with a couple, maybe even just one, 10.0 UVB Reptisun CFL. They're designed to give out good, healthy amounts of radiation to your reptile pets; the bulbs usually emit somewhere in the neighborhood of 10% UVB radiation and 30% UVA radiation. What will they do for your plants? In relatively recent tests, UVB radiation was found to increase the quality of the THC in many cannabis strains. When used in unison with a HPS, it'll produce tight buds that you'd expect from the HPS light coupled with the quality of bud you'd expect from an MH without needing both an HPS and MH light.

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    Yeah, I wanna check out a few 75w HPS floodlights.. and a few CFL flood lights.. I'm gettin rid of 2-3, i'ma see what i can do with my two I also read about that, but i haven't found enough info for more detail.. where can i get a uvb cfl?

    with the deal i'm gettin for the HID MHs, I'm gettin 6 50w for 35.. its more cost effecient.. but I'm gonna be lookin into the flood lamps..

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    If I get the 65w CFL floods, I'll have 18,300 lumens at 210w..

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    say hello to the new recriuts...

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    A second set of true leaves are beginning to grow in at this point, its day 5. I rearranged some of the lighting in the bin, got the bulbs closer and made it easier for me to manage the plants. I'm going to be getting some new bulbs soon, can't wait to show u guys, I wanna keep it a secret..

    I also pissed on them.. I did readin on it, and I kno you guys shun the idea of pissin on a plant.. But I didn't necessarily do that, to be honest. I dilluted it to 2/3 parts water. Check this out:

    "Urine has applications in gardening and agriculture as a fertiliser. Gardeners often recommend a dilution of 10-15 parts water to one of urine for application to pot plants and flower beds during the growing season; pure urine can chemically burn the roots of some species. Urine typically contains more than 50% of the nitrogen and phosphorus and potassium content of whole sewage, and is widely considered as good as or better than commercially-available chemical fertilisers or stabilised sludge from sewage plants. Urine is also used in composting to increase the nitrogen content of the mulch, accelerating the composting process and increasing its final nutrient values."

    so I gave a little bit of increments, just to get my babies started on the way.. I gotta pick up my nutes, I plan to start them day 7..
    The 2 seed-shooters are comin along just fine, already have reached a quarter inch length.. I'm going to plant them tomorrow, I got the soil warmin up for them..

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    Ok now, I set up a timer, I'm testing to see if it works.. Its also day 7, so I put my babies on a slight nutrient schedule, just something to get them goin.. I'm not putting alot, because I kno they're still babies.. The 2nd set of tru eaves are coming out..

    20 fl oz nutrient mix:

    .19 fl oz 3% Peroxide
    1 drop of Liquid Earth Vigor
    1 drop of Liquid Earth Organic Activator
    4 fl oz Dilated Urine
    16 fl oz distilled water with added electrolytes
    -- I'll also be adding mineral water when I get it.


    I also added a 65w Full-Spectrum Neonydium Light to the mix. That should boost things a little.

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    I noticed Control plant 1 started turning a little pale, yellow, and the leave started to curl.. I'm to assume that I overwatered, Not supposed to be watering every other day under CFL lighting.. So I cut the bottom off the styrofoam cup and am about to chnge my settup.. Turns out the roots reached the bottom of the cup..

    I'll be setting up a homemade soil-net system, so i can let my roots dangle (and i can spray them)

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