Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
That is not true, and history proves that. It is NOT right to force child support payments on a man - especially if the couple is not married. Women have ALL the rights to deliberatly not use birth control, and/or refuse to get an abortion, and the man is forced to pay for the unethical behavior of the slut - even if she lives with, or even marries, other men. There are NOT many "respectable" fathers because the system gives them no rights. There is not even an incentive anymore to be a father - I think that guys that have kids are making a mistake, in most cases. Look at the divorce rate, the rates of single parenthood (usually females), "deliquent dads" that have been f*cked over, the high rate of crime amoung young people from broken homes - without a father figure. There's no "men" anymore - legally, socially, and economically we're the "niggers" of the sexes - and if we don't wake up, the lunatic fringe of religous people will take over everything.

Men UNITE! It's only common sense.
Howdy BA,

I think that it's right to make both the man and woman responsible,married or not,especially if a chil is concieved because of irresponsible promiscuity. I do agree that men need to have more rights in regards to whether an abortion should be performed or not,there are many men who want to have children and are willing to be fully responsible for them.

I don't like the use of the word "slut" and it makes me wonder if you think of all women as being "sluts" ? As the father of a beautiful,wonderful daughter,it pisses me off mightily ,when men talk about women in those terms..if anything-we have a problem with man "sluts",who will do or say anything to a woman,to git her into bed.

I left my wife and took my daughter,when she was old enuff to decide legally,who she wanted to live with,and finished raising her on my own,without hardly any help from her mother,because her mother was more interested in going to the bar,than being at home with her daughter. My daughter never got into drugs or sex,in school,and finished highschool in the top of her class,I re-dedicated my life to her and put my wants aside.

So when a child is concieved,it's time for the parents to grow up and put their wants to the side and consider the needs of the child first,it becomes a bigger issue than just the wants of the mother..it's no longer about whether a man or woman refuses to be "in-convienced" by a child. Certainly,there should be consideration given for the health impact to the mother,and not nearly so much about whether it's "in-convient" or not.

Have a good one...