there was a time back when the pot-net was just getting underway and emery had the main, if not only one...HBC dot com. it allowed html and all the other little toys some assholes enjoy playing with so we always had to be on guard and ready to pull the plug at a moments notice but we never ever talked about pot. it was always tomatoes or another vegetable (wink wink, nudge nudge kinda thing) and never ever posted pics. these were the days when current heavy breeders associated with lower life forms, breeder steve, ncga, mr soul and bros grimm and a few others, and we'd exchange advice and bs for hours in a message board format (didn't have streaming chat then either). it made for a very paranoid but full of info kind of place! but we always had access to good seeds as "testers" so it's a good thing i guess there weren't many seed banks around then and only emery serviced the states.