Mescaline feels Like XTC?

[Harvesthetic]

*SIgh* man have you got me wrong, I asked if anyone else compares it to what others have said what you just said was something that was already answered to me you didnt understand my question, and maybe you do know alo tmore than me but I brewed 24 different pervu cactus and made tea and experienced gradual mescaline vibes. I have been researching mescaline for quit some time and know much about it but none of this involves my question, but you know this now so its cool im not saying whose better but you didnt have to either you implied yourself better, and for one no you cant smoke shrooms period or at leats not the way your doing it even erowids complicates that im just telling you whats up not whose better so why argue and debate over nothing, please and im sorry if I insulted you.

Point taken man, I see where you're coming from, no problem at all, but in this maze of kids who really don't know that much it's hard to keep it constructive.
I'm sorry too man enjoy the Peruvian :thumbsup: It's better than what I'm cookin' up, so you've got me there

[RastaKaze]

lmfao mescal is like e yea

wow

huh? harv lol

[RastaKaze]

sorry i kno yalls bit is over

its just, mescaline is NOTHING like ecstasy in any way shape or form

[bedake]

poppers only difference from mdma is a single oxygen molecule? I wonder if chemists have ever tried to synthesize mdma from poppers by removing that oxygen molecule

[Harvesthetic]

poppers only difference from mdma is a single oxygen molecule? I wonder if chemists have ever tried to synthesize mdma from poppers by removing that oxygen molecule

that would probably be a difficult job. i'm not sure but removing a single oxygen molecule would take more time.

[Nullific]

For example, Poppers (amylnitrate) only has 1 oxygen molecule extra, apart from that it is identical to XTC. Do they have the same effect? No, not at all. Are they categorised together?

Where did you get that information? I am no chemist, but anybody can look up the chemical structures of MDMA and amyl nitrite. If what you say is true then considering the chemical formula for amyl nitrite C5H11NO2, minus an oxygen would make MDMA C5H11NO. Unfortunately MDMA is C11H15NO2, and the chemicals are structured very differently as you can see.

Mescaline is somewhat chemically similar to MDMA, both are substituted phenethylamines. Effects I cannot comment on, mescaline is definately more psychedelic though.

[Harvesthetic]

Where did you get that information? I am no chemist, but anybody can look up the chemical structures of MDMA and amyl nitrite. If what you say is true then considering the chemical formula for amyl nitrite C5H11NO2, minus an oxygen would make MDMA C5H11NO. Unfortunately MDMA is C11H15NO2, and the chemicals are structured very differently as you can see.

That's the essence of the point I was making, just because they only differ in 1 molecule, doesn't mean they influence your brain in the same way.
I got that information from the same source you did, I only stated that it was one ox. molec. short of E.

[Savako]

Im just replying to what RastaKaze, I said similar not anything like MDMA, and yes mescaline has been said to produce strong MDMA like euphoria, Erowids even says this and even alot of reports issued claim it to be veyr much similar to the euphoria effects of MDMA. I was just wanting to know if anyone here had that experience and would like to describe to me about it.

[RastaKaze]

yea buddy, trust me, i have experience with mesc

and im telling you right now it does produce a feeling of well being SORT OF but comparing it to MDMA is like comparing crack to weed, they are two completely dif. substances

[Savako]

Thats good n all but everyone is different your stand point isnt your opinion your just debating and furthermore thanks you need that much at least so you dont start flamming.