I mix it in with beneficial bacillus in my fertilizer along with other biochemicals. The new high times issue is going to be an all organic issue and you should be able to see my ad in the issue. I have info on it under resources on my web page www.gorillagrow.org It is truely wonderfull as long as you have a pure culture. Some products do not use a pure culture and it will kill your clones I found out. Never tryed Piranha
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