a challenge to those who feel intelligent

[PureEvil760]

can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that your religious beliefs are accurate?

can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that your not a moron?

[PureEvil760]

oh yea one more thing hitler was the anti-christ..good luck with that

[Polymirize]

So, childofspirit, is your name a slogan reference then?

What boat are you in?

[altagid]

What the fuck is the matter with all you pinheads? Adolf asks to discuss a perfectly reasonable topic and nearly every response is either insulting , rude or just plain fucking pointless! Like dogs barking - just because. Shame on you!

"Reasonable doubt" is a very high standard few things get established with that kind of certainty, math theorems, physical laws, criminal convictions although I doubt if a jury of you peers ( read 12 morons like you) are up to the job. You'd kinda think that religion, being as the stakes are so high, would also get there - but I have never seen anything that amounts even to "strong evidence". In fact the only kind of evidence at all is that a lot of people are very very sure about their religions.

[intheclouds]

My religious faith is "That God created MJ for our use to help us". My faith is proven every time I smoke it, Because it sure helps me!!:thumbsup:

[altagid]

My religious faith is "That God created MJ for our use to help us". My faith is proven every time I smoke it, Because it sure helps me!!:thumbsup:

A great sentiment but smoking what you believe doesnt amount to proof. I have a Book of Mormon somewhere with onionskin pages - if I use it for rolling papers what does that prove?

Since we are all a bunch of stoners and like to live inside our heads, lemme ask a more basic question:

Do you know, beyond a reasonable doubt, that you are not just a brain in a vat?

[Reefer Rogue]

No one can really prove that theism or naturalism is correct. There's evidence for both sides, it's what YOU choose to believe.

[Fengzi]

NAW NOT AN IDIOT AT ALL. WAIT A SECOND.... DIDN'T HE KILL MILLIONS OF INNOCENT MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN?

Hitler was definitely not an idiot, more like a genius. An evil psychopath? Yes. But an idiot? No.

Anyhow, back to the question at hand. I basically have no religious beliefs. I don't believe in God, Jesus, Shiva, Mohammed, etc. I was baptized a Catholic and did go to Catholic high school. Neither of my parents were very religious, however. My mother, in fact, was an athiest. As such I was never taught about religion until going to Catholic School and the thing that struck me at that time was that their was no proof. Certainly not beyond a reasonable doubt. There is absolutely no tangible proof that what is in the Bible is any more factual that what was written in the Lord of the Rings. Makes me wonder who millions would be worshiping if Tolkien were alive 1500 years earlier. People believe it because it was what they were taught by their parents, as their parents taught them, and so on.

Religion does serve a purpose. One thing common to all religions, whether Christian, Muslim, or that of a primitive tribe in central Papua New Guinea, is that it provides a set of rules which generally accepted by society. It also provides an ultimate punishment for those who break the rules. My guess is that religions came about based on myths and stories passed down from generation. Over time "Don't wander off into the woods or the boogyman will eat you" eventually turned into "Go to church every Sunday or you'll burn in hell". Realistically there's no more proof of hell than their is of the boogyman. People are weak minded though, and want something to beleive in, so after hearing it long enough they take it as true.

Take that movie, The Village for example. Not a very good movie I'll admit but the concept does illustrate my point. The people in that village beleived 100%that if they went into the woods, wore the color red, etc. the critters were going to come. Why? Was it real? Certainly not. But they had been taught that by people they trusted so they had no reason to beleive otherwise.

[SensiRide]

Hitler was definitely not an idiot, more like a genius. An evil psychopath? Yes. But an idiot? No.

Anyhow, back to the question at hand. I basically have no religious beliefs. I don't believe in God, Jesus, Shiva, Mohammed, etc. I was baptized a Catholic and did go to Catholic high school. Neither of my parents were very religious, however. My mother, in fact, was an athiest. As such I was never taught about religion until going to Catholic School and the thing that struck me at that time was that their was no proof. Certainly not beyond a reasonable doubt. There is absolutely no tangible proof that what is in the Bible is any more factual that what was written in the Lord of the Rings. Makes me wonder who millions would be worshiping if Tolkien were alive 1500 years earlier. People believe it because it was what they were taught by their parents, as their parents taught them, and so on.

Religion does serve a purpose. One thing common to all religions, whether Christian, Muslim, or that of a primitive tribe in central Papua New Guinea, is that it provides a set of rules which generally accepted by society. It also provides an ultimate punishment for those who break the rules. My guess is that religions came about based on myths and stories passed down from generation. Over time "Don't wander off into the woods or the boogyman will eat you" eventually turned into "Go to church every Sunday or you'll burn in hell". Realistically there's no more proof of hell than their is of the boogyman. People are weak minded though, and want something to beleive in, so after hearing it long enough they take it as true.

That is exactly my feelings about religion. I think its an ancient method of controlling the masses.
Saying that, I could be wrong, nobody will know till they die, but what really gets my goat is people preaching their beliefs and refusing to accept they could possibly be wrong.
I mean, my mum is a Muslim and when I was in school, I wasnt allowed to eat bacon because its banned in Islam - I dont think its right to force these kind of things on your kids. Now I eat what I want, and although I have a muslim surname, I'm by no stretch of the imagination, a Muslim. I do, however, like the philosophy of Buddhism...it makes the most sense out of all the religions I have researched

[bosscitywhitey]

i have no belief. do i win?