Cannabis - preventing, treating, curing cancer??

[mrdevious]

While I'm certain cannabinoids are very beneficial to cancer patients, I wouldn't go spouting off "it's a cure!" quite yet. All we know is that it helps destroy cancer cells and protect healthy cells, there are many cancer drugs out there that do that too, but they're not cures.

Plus, there's still carcinogens in weed of course. and I don't know the whole story with Bob Marley, but the guy did die of lung cancer.

[sheist]

I tried for a long time to justify withholding any research that could cure cancer and I can't think of even one. It's a disgrace and someone needs to be in prison over this one.

so what, u say???

yeah it was a bad move on their part.. the marijuana shit started opposition in the 50s, before the 70s when the discovery was already made.. by that time marijuanna trafficking and connection to the other drugs already have already infested the nation..

so dont thank the government for fuckin it up for everyone.. thank the crimelords and druglords for it.. cus they're the reason for the serious laws in the first place..

now that there was the miraculous discovery, we're already in the shithole because we have it in the ban, for us to undo it would cause INTERNATIONAL devastation.. The US is one of the major economic heads in the world.. you fuck up the U.S, all economically-affiliated countries will be directly affected.. look at the great depression.. and guess what came out of that depression.. world war.. the first depression started WW1... the 2nd depression started WW2.. lets be rational, here..



this shit is a game of chess, lyk i allured before.. yeah, it WILL get legalized in the future, but the situation the government is facing is AVOIDING the depression.... so yeah, there will be sacrifice, there always has been..

don't contradict yourself in sayin that you believe in lookin at the whole picture when the only decision ur lookin for is to save ur grandma or some shit.. u choose you're grandma over the rest of the nation's well-being..

you getting your grandma a cure for cancer will only lead to your poverty and the possible death or negative wellbeing of your children and future heir line..

so with that bein said, fuck grandma.. stop worryin about now and worry bout the future..



P.s. cancer is not worse than the effects brought by the manhattan project..
they use it to battle cancer.. try living with it when YOU DONT HAVE IT..

self ambition such displayed by your post is the VERY REASON we're in the situation now

[newactivist]

How can telling the truth be wrong? How can you say that legalizing marijuana would ruin the world economy? At some point we must make a stand and do the right thing as we see it or else nothing will ever change.

I would rather live in a world with more poverty than have people suffer if it came to that but who is to say it would? Where do your get your projections of the economic devastation caused by the end of prohibition? I'm having trouble following your logic. Would it shut down Microsoft? Ford? All the air conditioning companies? I will say that it will shut down the timber companies and the oil companies would have to compete with bio-fuels but would no longer chopping down tree's for paper and particle board or using polluting fuels be a bad thing? All it would do is switch the revenue to another portion of our economy, in this case our farmers.

The researchers cured brain tumors! If you go to a doctor today with them he will give you drugs to dull the pain and tell you how long he thinks you'll live. In our medical science there is no cure, or at least one they will allow. Yet it was cured with cannabinoids in 20% of the subjects and the rest lived 36% longer than the control subjects. I would call that a major step forward in cancer research but the US government has shut down all research into it and purged their data. What, are they concerned that the researchers were going to smoke it and pass it out at grade schools? Come on! Then to hear John Walters lie through his teeth saying it isn't a medicine! Do you like to have your government lie to you?

Bob Marley smoked blunts, tobacco as well as weed. I agree it may be bad to inhale any kind of smoke so use a vaporizer so you do not have to. In fact, ask yourself why tobacco is legal, even knowing how many people it kills, but weed isn't. We lose people in the hundreds of thousands every year from cancer and tobacco is the leading cause. Yet it is regulated and I can buy it at any convenience store. Researchers have admitted they can't even give subjects emphysema with just pot smoke alone.

"there are many cancer drugs out there that do that too" Show me one that does anywhere near as well and without all the side effects of big pharma's products, Mr. Devious. Give me a good reason why researchers can study heroin and cocaine, doctors can even prescribe them, and not marijuana? Studies that could save the lives of ten's of thousands of people a year?

Does it sometimes seem there is more to this than meets the eye? I mean, our drug policy for marijuana doesn't make sense. So why doesn't it? Where is the disconnect?

[sheist]

Of course you'd rather live in a world more poverse, when its at someone else's expense.. You wont care unless its ur your city.. your town.. your neighborhood.. your block.. your house... Like I said before, I'm on ur side, as little as you may see it.. I already kno cannabis's effects on cancer cells, so repeating the information is futile.. However, immediate legalization will send the country into chaos...

Where am I getting my projections?? Google up "effects of overpopulation"

http://www.biocab.org/Overpopulation.html

http://www.airheadsscuba.com/kayesite1/overpop.html


this is an example.. they've done studies.. I've also been reading on similar case studies in my Geography course, so NO I am NOT JUST looking on the Internet, I've already spoken with my Professor about it.

Also, take into consideration that the Depressions in the past have followed an immediate action, such as the crash of the stock market...

There is a DIRECT CORRELATION between POVERTY and CRIME..

#1 - Your poor.. Your primary human inclination is to have MORE of what you DONT HAVE.. WE ALL DO IT (Thats why there IS crime).. in this case it'd be MONEY..

#2 - We're ALREADY IN A NATIONAL DEBT.. We're in so much of a debt that My generation WONT EVEN RECIEVE SOCIAL SECURITY.. We're poverse as it is..

#3 - Since you ARE poor, how are you going to afford Health Benefits?? And how are you going to afford the medical testing from here on out, considering the fact that RADICALS fucked up the medical system.. Remember, you just "shifted the economy.."

Overpopulation means more resources, resources which we already don't have.. We don't even have enough oil to run the countries so we're at a world war to get more.. And yea, it'll put a strain on YOUR FARMERS too because now they have to feed more.. Do you actually think about this??


Read my articles FIRST before replying..

[sheist]

The generation's almost at its plummit.. they're gonna die regardless, they're born to die.. what you NEED to do is look at YOUR generation.. What you need to do is look at your children's generation.. Your grandchildren.. Do you want your family's line to just completely stop because of an economic depression??? Families have suffered it... Why should you?? Why should they?? Like I said, sacrifice.. And they're not sacrificin their life, cus they're already dying.. They're sacrificin their use..

yeah, it WILL be legalized.. you just gotta give it time.. There's more than 1 way to skin a cat, but some of those ways will make that cat scratch back.. Stop trying to make the cat scratch back..

[newactivist]

Anywho, interesting theories tied to the end of marijuana prohibition. Anyone else have an opinion?

[welshkillabee]

Plus, there's still carcinogens in weed of course. and I don't know the whole story with Bob Marley, but the guy did die of lung cancer.

Not lung cancer he had brain cancer look it up...

[cannamail]

so what, u say???

yeah it was a bad move on their part.. the marijuana shit started opposition in the 50s, before the 70s when the discovery was already made.. by that time marijuanna trafficking and connection to the other drugs already have already infested the nation..

so dont thank the government for fuckin it up for everyone.. thank the crimelords and druglords for it.. cus they're the reason for the serious laws in the first place..

now that there was the miraculous discovery, we're already in the shithole because we have it in the ban, for us to undo it would cause INTERNATIONAL devastation.. The US is one of the major economic heads in the world.. you fuck up the U.S, all economically-affiliated countries will be directly affected.. look at the great depression.. and guess what came out of that depression.. world war.. the first depression started WW1... the 2nd depression started WW2.. lets be rational, here..



this shit is a game of chess, lyk i allured before.. yeah, it WILL get legalized in the future, but the situation the government is facing is AVOIDING the depression.... so yeah, there will be sacrifice, there always has been..

don't contradict yourself in sayin that you believe in lookin at the whole picture when the only decision ur lookin for is to save ur grandma or some shit.. u choose you're grandma over the rest of the nation's well-being..

you getting your grandma a cure for cancer will only lead to your poverty and the possible death or negative wellbeing of your children and future heir line..

so with that bein said, fuck grandma.. stop worryin about now and worry bout the future..



P.s. cancer is not worse than the effects brought by the manhattan project..
they use it to battle cancer.. try living with it when YOU DONT HAVE IT..

I want to congratulate you on this one sheister its the biggest pile of crap ever posted on a bulletin board EVER.:clap: :clap: :clap:

Lets all praise the US of A for keeping cannabis illegal, destroying research, keeping hemp from saving the planet and generally destroying the planet cus really all they're doing is looking after the world by staving off another depression and if it cost a few million grannies round the planet so what.:dance:
I honestly think this is the funniest thing I've ever read on a bb you should be the next president. (republican of course)

Made my bloody day he has.:thumbsup:

[cannamail]

double post. :

[cannamail]

Good call sheist. I also believe in looking at the whole picture. I also believe you could be right in it causing some disruption in our economy. That being said, so what?

I tried for a long time to justify withholding any research that could cure cancer and I can't think of even one. It's a disgrace and someone needs to be in prison over this one. How can you justify letting people die more horribly than the Japanese in Hiroshima from radiation poisoning? How can you justify a ten year old child emaciated and wasting away before your eyes, crying from the pain and fear if there is even a chance of saving them? Would you like to explain the governments viewpoint to that childs family? Parents? Millions of people like our family and friends, people we love and couldn't imagine a world without them in it, dead for corporate America's greed or the perfidity of our elected officials.

You know, fuck our government if this is the way they want to treat us. Fuck our economy if the only way it can be supported is from human misery. Fuck the doctors who know this to be the truth and hide, violating their sworn oath.

God let's us know in our hearts what is right and what is wrong and I have an obligation to fight now that I know the truth. It is only the right thing to do.

Sounds like money is the root of all evil after all. We can't have a cancer cure as it might hurt someones pockets. Given that cannabis is a complete food though and can be grown without toxic fertilisers pretty much right around the globe why is money important. You can't eat gold.