Quote Originally Posted by Winks
if you want to escape detection from thermal output and powerspikes, nothing else compares to LED
This could not be further from the truth. LEDs are less efficient than CFLs, and MUCH less efficient than HID. For every watt that goes in, more heat and less light comes out. Any website that says different is pure marketing bullshit.

Quote Originally Posted by the image reaper
NOT wild exaggerations about the expense of solar panels, etc ... I already have 160 watts of solar panels, and they cost me about $750, not thousands
You clearly don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about here. My post was not an exaggeration in any way. Guess what? 160 watts of solar panels will grow NOTHING. If you used 300 watts of CFLs, which might grow you 2 ounces, you'd need at least 5.4kwh per day. (300 watts x 18 hours) Solar panels only produce around 80% of their output on GOOD days for an average of 5 hours per day. This means you'll need about 1,500 watts of solar panels in order to store up enough energy in that 5 hour period that your panels will be producing useable power. These panels would cost around $6,000 if you get a good deal...not counting all the batteries, charge controllers, and inverters you'd need. These solar panels would also be HUGE compared to a motor home. This is also assuming every day of the year is bright and sunny - it's not.

If you wanted to use your 160 watt panel to grow you wouldn't be able to use anything larger than a 35 watt bulb.

Like I said, if it worked everybody would be growing their weed out in the woods in an old trailer. They're not. Guess why?