thanks for the lead on the L.E.D. grow light ... thats the kind of info I was asking for ... ( NOT wild exaggerations about the expense of solar panels, etc ... I already have 160 watts of solar panels, and they cost me about $750, not thousands :stoned: ... smoking too much, I guess ) ... anyway, the L.E.D. setup is what I needed, 12v, etc ) ...thanks again :smokin: