Need some help please.. (pics included)

[Garden Knowm]

HARDON - i love you

PUNK.... you are doing great.. and as hard on said, the plants look good...

You are missing something...... a nutrient.. something minor... maybe K... Although you said it started on the bottom.. correct?.. and NO red stems?

Potasium(K) is in heavy demand from a young growing plant... it may be your PH..

Like HArdon said... get your water at 6.8... to 7.0

When you say that your water is bad, what do you mean?

The only really bad tap water is water that has a PPM of over 220 straight from the tap...

And soil plants will be ok with this HARD water.. it is only aeroponic and hydro grows that will suffer... with such hard water...

I am not sure what HardON ment by stretching.. I wonder if he ment, "let her get taller.." or "let the nodes stretch and seperate"

Either way, I strongly disagree... with both thoughts... STRETCHING is a BIG NO NO....

And 90% of all growers should flower when their plants are short.. under 20 inches... there are exceptions....

Get your clones.. and then wait a week and then flower...

LOVE

Garden Knowm Reviewed by Garden Knowm on 02-21-2006. Need some help please.. (pics included) Well I've did alot of searching trying to figure out what could be wrong with one of my plants. I came across so many different things that could be wrong, so I figured I'd ask here. In the pics, you will see 2 plants. The left plant is a week or so older than the plant on the right. The right plant is the one I'm having the problem with. It seems that the lower leaves have some small brown spots. Now my camera won't zoom in close enough to get a clear pic, so I will try to describe the Rating: 5

[smoknjoe]

KNOWM and HARDDON...

Why are you suggesting to use water pHed to 6.8-7.0. I'm just curious because I've read so many times that 6.4 is the ideal pH, so I just started doing that, but now you have me second guessing!

Thanks,
joe.

[StickyFinger]

This is what i do for the tapwater issue... Take your water and pour it from 1

container to another and back and forth for a while making the water splash

bubble and swell as much as possible, this in effect should gas off most of

the chlorine form the water... Then what i usually do is put it in my spray

mister pump it up and shake it about. This puts alittle more oxygen in the

water and gasses off the remaining nasties. Also always use water at grow

room temp so as not to shock the plants.

Good luck with the grow.

[Punk In Drublic]

Wow, thanks alot for everyones help. I feel alot better this morning as I'm not seeing that many more spots on her. She's also respoding VERY well to LST.

Knowm,

I thought too that I was missing some type of nute. Did you see the soil test results I did that are posted above? The only one it looks SLIGHTLY low in is N (purple). The K (orange) seems to be somewhat in the middle of the scale. The P (blue) looks high to me. It seems to be a bit above the middle of the scale. What do you think? Should I still feed at a lower dosage?

Also, what I meant about my water is that it smells and taste horrible. Me and my wife won't even think about drinking it because it taste so much like chemicals and chlorine. For those reasons, I thought it wouldn't be good for my plants. Should I still try anyways and let it sit to let the chlorine get out?

Any about taking clones. I'm not sure that she's a female yet. I'm hoping she will show me her vagina soon

Sticky,

Thanks for the suggestions. I will give it a try for sure

Also, could anyone explain to me how to adjust the PH in my water? I know I can get a ph up/down test kit at the local fish store. Will this work?


Thanks again for everyones help. It is greatly appreciated. You guys sure do know how to settle down nerves

[HARDDON]

6.8 - 7.0 pH is perfect for this plant. Any lower and you will indeed get burn patches on the leaf...if not nutrient lock out as well.

You plant is not nutrient deficient. Unless your dirt was dug up from a farm that has been over cropped for 10 years.

If you are not checking your water pH on a EVERY SINGLE TIME you water basis, odds are therein MOST LIKELY lies your problem.

Distilled and softened water has a very high pH. IT needs to be adjusted down. If you are serious about your tomato plants, you cannot water and just expect it to flourish.

Not on a indoor grow. Outdoor is fine as the soil has natural buffers, but to grow indoors you need a $55.00 pH Milwaukee pen or something similar.

Your fish store sells strips and little bottles. Getonline and geta real pen and if you are an organic kind of grower, vinegar is a decent enough ph Down (about 1 teaspoon p/gallon) or use a chemical pH down powder.

Now reading you aren't watering with a 6.8 - 7.0 water would tell me there in is where your problem most likely lies.

As to the 6.4 pH question....thats a pH level better suited for hydro type grow, although your plants will be ok. But eventually, your soil might get a bit acidic over time and cause probs...I would prefer to raise it to 6.8 exactly.

And as far as the stretching....NOME....

On a heavy indica strain, it is ok to let them stretch a bit...it give the secondaries some room and light and can increase tomato production sites.

If the plant is being LST'd thats the same thing.

However, i strongly advise against LST a heavy indica strain becasue your buds, while nice and strong, will be not quite so prevelant or numerous as if you did it with a sativa strain.

FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE!

Good luck and watch the water pH and all will be well.

[Punk In Drublic]

Thanks Hardon,

I just got a ph test kit with ph/up and down. I just tested my distilled water wich I've been using and the ph was around 6.0. Also, on the label on the distilled water it reads "Processed by: Reverse Osmosis, Steamed Distillation and Ozonation. It also says sodium free.

Now Hardon or Knowm, should I contine to use this distilled water AFTER I adjust the ph to a proper level? Or should I use tap water after I've let it sit out and adjusted the ph to a proper level?

This is really all I need to know now and I think I'll be good to go. You guys have been a huge help! I can't tell you how much I appreciate it!

Thank you again.

[Punk In Drublic]

Well good news. I just got a pH soil tester and tested my soil. I tested it in all different locations in the pot and it all registered around 6.8 - 7.0. Mainly it was a tiny bit below 7.0.

[HARDDON]

If your water is distilled then RO'd it is fine...

I still prefer some tap water over distilled however because thru distillation you lose a lot of minerals.

The really good bottled water has some minerals added back in for taste, like calcium and mag...which your plant stems need.

Look for Dasani brand water, or evian..they have natural minerals in there. Water is water but ideally your plant should get a consistent type for the life of the plant.

One day I'll post pics of my 3 foot long solid cloned tomato buds fed with water that has been manipulated to have a wider hydrongen atom angle and reduced surface tension to <=+34 dynes.

It grows monster plants...but the machine was $1995.00.

[Garden Knowm]

On a heavy indica strain, it is ok to let them stretch a bit...it give the secondaries some room and light and can increase tomato production sites.

no its NOT...lol
It is NOT ok...it is silly...

I HAVE SPOKEN - love


Hey Hardon...
I have ph'd a few brands of distilled water and they all ph at 7.0...
Are you telling us that these have also been RO'ed...
I never knew... why would distilled watre have a high PH?


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[Punk In Drublic]

I'm using this: Deluxe pH

Knowm, can you tell me how long it takes to change the pH in the water after you apply it? It says a couple drops per US gallon, which I did.