ATTN: PRO HYDRO GROWERS!!! Your help is needed! (please!)

[GarlicToast]

I am looking for some help from someone here who is the PRO at growing hydroponically and who might be able to give a helping hand to a person in dire need! I am on my second grow ever, first turned out all men

Second group of 4 is now only 13 days old. I do have some problems, and growth seems slow. If a PRO reads this and is willing to help me out, I would greatly appreciate it.

Right now I have 4.

first: looks great, just growing slow as all can be. some leaves have twisted, just a little.
second: looks terrible, I think is is naturally deformed. "retarded" if you will.
third: Probably has grown the best and has the best roots, however two leaves on lower growth have some yellow spots on them that look like burns or something. New growth looks fine, but again... SLOW.
fourth: Some DARK green leaves on it, and now showing some signs of orangish spots... not good. a little twisting of the leaves here too.

My setup is as follows:
1000 Watt MH system. about 3.5 feet away from plants.
Room: is a closet about 2.5ft deep x 7ft long x 8ft Tall
I am using 5 Gallon buckets filled with RO/UV sterilized H20
Dyna Grow "GROW" formula 7-9-5 for nutes. added about 1 TSP of Fulvic Acid
My PH is 5.8 in all buckets and PPMs are all around 550-600
My temp is around 85 during the day and cools off to around 72 at night
lights on 24/24 currently.
Not sure of water temp. One day it seems warm, next day it seems cold.
4" Round air stones pump clean air into buckets and onto roots.
2 small fans for ventilation and circulation running.

I have recently pulled out about half the water in each resevoir and added fresh RO/UV sterilized water without nutes... PPMs at ~600

If you are a PRO grower, meaning, you grow time after time after time, and know what the heck you are doing.. (hydroponically ... mind you) please help me out. I would really appreciate it.

GarlicToast Reviewed by GarlicToast on 02-19-2006. ATTN: PRO HYDRO GROWERS!!! Your help is needed! (please!) I am looking for some help from someone here who is the PRO at growing hydroponically and who might be able to give a helping hand to a person in dire need! I am on my second grow ever, first turned out all men :mad: Second group of 4 is now only 13 days old. I do have some problems, and growth seems slow. If a PRO reads this and is willing to help me out, I would greatly appreciate it. Right now I have 4. first: looks great, just growing slow as all can be. some leaves have Rating: 5

[LOC NAR1958]

Sounds like you need Zandor's 2 new books as I am waiting for them also. I hate for the man to have to spoon feed me. Are you using the UV like a pond or fish thing I've seen to kill stuff or is it just done when the water is RO'ed ? Are you using any Cal-Mag plus ? sounds kind of like the cal-mag. You have to add it back for RO water. Bubblers in buckets, are you keeping the water level just under the net pots ? I used dynagro my first time it did good but go for GH 3 parts when you can. Sounds like your doing things right. What kind of venting are you getting, outside air or what ?

[Herbus]

What type media are you using? Sometimes improperly flushed media can cause all of these problems.

Herbus

[Easy Roller]

Forgive me for intruding as I don't qualify as a "Pro"....But I noticed your Dynagrow formula had a higher P percentage than the N percentage.....

Most grow nutes ...at least for soil...require the Nitrogen compounds [N] to be in higher concentration to Phospherous[P] and Potassium[K] ...

During flowering the P ratio must be higher than all other compounds....It's to do with the plants different nute requirements ...

Perhaps you knew that already but it just seemed a little odd that your nute formula had a strange composition....Maybe the lack of Nitrogen is hindering growth.....plants do take a while to grow though lol and growth rate is genetic and strain dependant...

[latewood]

depending on their size...day 13 might be a little soon for nutes! By the way, generally when leaves twist; It is a PH problem

Buy Jorge Cervantes-The Indoor Bible...I got mine used, but looks Brand new at Amazon.com for 10 bucks...

[GarlicToast]

Sounds like you need Zandor's 2 new books as I am waiting for them also. I hate for the man to have to spoon feed me. Are you using the UV like a pond or fish thing I've seen to kill stuff or is it just done when the water is RO'ed ? Are you using any Cal-Mag plus ? sounds kind of like the cal-mag. You have to add it back for RO water. Bubblers in buckets, are you keeping the water level just under the net pots ? I used dynagro my first time it did good but go for GH 3 parts when you can. Sounds like your doing things right. What kind of venting are you getting, outside air or what ?

No, I buy the water in 5 gallon jugs, i just know that is how it is treated.
So I need Cal-Mag Plus? Water level right now is touching the net pots. I have read many things on this site that have said to get the GH 3 part nutes. I think I am just going to break down and get it this week.
Ventilation is outside air, sort of. I have a window open in the room that contains the closet. This window is only cracked as it is probably 20 degrees F outside where I am! But the room is a toasty 80 F due to the 1000Watt light.

Thanks for your help thus far, any further insight would be a great help.

[GarlicToast]

What type media are you using? Sometimes improperly flushed media can cause all of these problems.

Herbus

Hydroton balls and rockwool cubes in a net pot.

how often should one flush this type of setup? and how?

[GarlicToast]

Forgive me for intruding as I don't qualify as a "Pro"....But I noticed your Dynagrow formula had a higher P percentage than the N percentage.....

Most grow nutes ...at least for soil...require the Nitrogen compounds [N] to be in higher concentration to Phospherous[P] and Potassium[K] ...

During flowering the P ratio must be higher than all other compounds....It's to do with the plants different nute requirements ...

Perhaps you knew that already but it just seemed a little odd that your nute formula had a strange composition....Maybe the lack of Nitrogen is hindering growth.....plants do take a while to grow though lol and growth rate is genetic and strain dependant...

You are not intruding. Thank you for your post. I did notice that about the Dyna Grow, and I am probably just going to get the GH 3 part system this week and do a full flush of the buckets and use the new nutes.

Yes, I am not even sure what strain this is exactly. I was told "Shiva" but it smells like a skunk to me! LOL!

[GarlicToast]

depending on their size...day 13 might be a little soon for nutes! By the way, generally when leaves twist; It is a PH problem

Buy Jorge Cervantes-The Indoor Bible...I got mine used, but looks Brand new at Amazon.com for 10 bucks...

I was wondering about this... That is why I asked for the PRO grower in this post. I would LOVE to know what PPM levels and PH levels people are using when EACH WEEK when they are getting this incredible grows. I am pretty much wishing for day by day instructions or something, because no matter how hard I try, I seem to be making mistakes here and there.

I am going to try and post some pics of them later for all to see. maybe that will shine some light on what they each look like and help determine what my probs are if any.

I saw that book on Amazon... does it deal with Hydroponics though????

I know dirt is a little different to deal with (PH diff and everything), and I have spent all this time/ money in hyrdo, so I would like to stay this way.

[latewood]

It deals with everything and Jorge updates this book each edition...so make sure to get a late edition...This book is everything any of the experienced growers here can tell/teach you. After you have it, you will understand alot more than can be explained on these forums...and when you need help to understand something, we will be able to clarify info for you...

DAy by Day...this is hard...let's say I tell you everything you need and you get it, but everybody on the forums want to stick in there 2cents in...you start doing different things and the whole mess gets confused...

1. Read the 4ums and develop a plan to grow
2. after you develop a plan and equipment you want to use, post it and we will critique it, and set you straight. You make the choices. lw

I have grown hydro from the start. If you find my threads, you can see some Monster growth...all from DWC...I also grow in pots using Schultz Orchid Mix/perlite/peat moss...with the same nutes as hydro (awsome plants...Only difference is I have to change ph average 5.8 for hydro-6.5 for soil

Some threads of mine are...latewood's little room...Misty Blue/BBJack grow report...clones in 10 days/homemade bubbler...sticky: Madman goes aero
cloning directly to hydroton bubbler...or something like that...Look in hydro and indoor forums 4-5 pages deep for my threads,,,I have quit posting lots of pix, because I was getting too well known...later.lw