Vengence: I'm a mom that has spent the last three days mourning the loss of my son. I had to cut him out of my life because he gets drunk and comes home trying to beat me up. I relized my son was going to do whatever he wanted at an early age. So I let him smoke weed in the house. No alcohol. Sent him to colloege, he got all f's. He just worked me to get the car that went with him to college. He wrecked his life, or at least closed a big door I worked hard to keep open for him. So now, I wonder if I did the wrong thing beung REAL wit my son. Listen to your dad, man. If you can't do what he asks all the time at least respect him for all he does for you and how much he loves you. You're lucky he's in your life. As for age, I started about 15 yrs old. Stopped to have children and become a lawyer. Now I have the luxury to toke it up with a vengence and no mf gonna stop me. I payed my dues and now I play! Don't forget the dues part of the play. Makes playing more fun. Let me ask you this: do You think being real with my kids is wrong? I don't know how else to be.....