please excuse me.... Its a camo 835. I have an 870. I wouldnt have a tactical shotgun that wont shoot 3 and a halfs. Buddy I know my guns and I do apologize for confusing an 870 and an 835. ha... im sorry. I quit using my 835 for hunting purposes because it jammed BAD on me one day i was duck hunting. I was using 3 1/2" and when i pumped, the empty stayed on top and the fresh shell was under and i missed out on about two hours of hunting because i had to go in and break it down.