Aderol Q's and advice? (kinda long sorry)

[bedake]

i have been unmotivated for quite a while, and my mom gets pretty upset/dissappointed when she see's me getting anything else besides a's.. I am exactly how you were, just waiting for each period to end and I just don't feel like doing anything school related. sounds like it's done you guys nothing but good.. I have no idea how I would go about bringing this up with my mom.. hmmm, any ideas?

you sound jaded, are you a senior/junior, we called it seniorits, nooone wants to do shit those years, i half assed everything, stick it out man highschool is easy stuff.

but if you really want addero its really easy to get prescribed to, just go in, and say im having trouble studying, paying attention, its hurting my grades, im afraid i wont be able to succeed in life blah blah blah

[Irv]

seems like the aderol can lead to heavy........typing episodes!
kidding aside, whatever works, ADD relief is a beautiful thing:thumbsup:

[Jeff Spicoli]

yeah, but not only because of school, and im a sophomore

[Tmar.aLL.DaYmar]

its not as easy as just walking into the doctors office and telling him you need aderol. first you have to get tested, and then your psychiatrist (yes, you have to have a psychiatrist that you have to see basically every month when you start.. 300$+ per visit) will probably put you on 500 different pills with mixtures of stuff like aderol and riddlin before they finally put you on straight a.

yeh, getting a prescription is a bitch. and expensive as hell.

[RastaKaze]

adderal is stupid, and so are your parents if they put you on it. It's amphetamines mate, well, 4 different usually consisting of half mental stimulants and half physical simulants... long term use of that shit can cause palipitations, psychotic episodes, scary ass hallucinations, strokes, brain damage etc. Sheesh... yeah, our kids aren't doing good in school, so, let's put them on speed! It will make them more aware and able to learn better! Ha, isn't that some Hitler ass logic

[420Toaker]

about the sleep thing yea im experianceing that its 2:03am and dont really want to goto sleep but i know i have to so i guess ill try after this. I think its because i took 60mg which seems to me now like alot when the average perscritpion i read on a site is never higher than 30mg so ithink im just gunna stick to 20mg in the morn for like 1-2weeks and see how it has effected me and then i will stop and see how much it differs from i guess you could call it my (sober self).

[Terpalum]

I didn't have to get tested when I started. I was 23 at the time and in law school. All I said to my GP was that I was having a hard time concentrating in class and that one of my professors asked if I had been diagnosed with ADD. He prescribed Strattera (a non-amphetamine) at first but it didn't work. So I went to see a psychiatrist and he pretty much allowed me to self-diagnose using a numerical range designed to see how much ADD was impacting my behavior. I exaggerated to get to the place I needed to be to be prescribed a stimulant, and asked for Adderall by name since my friend sold it to me in college and law school and it worked wonders if I needed to stay up all night for a test or paper. Now I'm on 40 mg XR in the morning and I feel so much more productive. The only downsides are lack of erection and the tendency to smoke WAY too much to battle the high from the Adderall. Feel free to ask em any more questions if you have them.

[lemonboy]

Yeah that is a lot of work to go through to get a script but with insurance covering most if not all of it I see no real harm in it.

[RastaKaze]

Health risks and problems associated with amphetamine use:



Agitation, Inability to Concentrate: In some users, increasing with dose, amphetamine causes agitation, restlessness, and inability to concentrate or focus.

Frequency: uncommon, increasing with dose. Certainty: clear causation.



Cardiovascular Stress: Increased heart rate and blood pressure. Tachycardia (fast heart) and palpitations are common at high doses.

Frequency: very common. Certainty: clear causation.



Heart Attack & Hypertensive Crisis: With higher doses and for vulnerable individuals, Cardiovascular Stress can precipitate severe hypertensive crises and Heart Attacks.

Frequency: uncommon. Certainty: clear causation.



Stroke: Increases risk of stroke as dose increases.

Frequency: unknown. Certainty: medium. [Kaku 1990, Lambrecht 1993]



Overheating: High doses can cause overheating (hyperthermia) which can be dangerous in certain environments or for vulnerable people.

Frequency: common. Certainty: clear causation.



Poor Sleep Quality: Mild sleep disruptions are very common and include difficulty falling asleep and poor sleep quality.

Frequency: typical. Certainty: clear causation.



Sleep Deprivation: Repeated dosing can lead to lack of sleep for days on end, resulting in cognitive impairment, poor judgement, confusion, hallucinations, and paranoia.

Frequency: typical with repeated dosing. Certainty: clear causation.



Bad Driving: Lack of sleep can lead to impaired judgement and poor driving.

Frequency: common with sleep deprivation. Certainty: link established.



Poor Diet: Reduced appetite and reduced enjoyment of eating can lead to poor diet which, over time, can lead to poor general health, oral health and skin tone, and increased physical and mental stress.

Frequency: common with chronic use. Certainty: clear causation.



Stress & Oxidative Damage: Methamphetamine causes stress to the body and mind and causes an increase in oxidative stress in blood and tissues. At very high doses and frequencies of use, organ damage and premature aging may occur.

Frequency: common. Certainty: some evidence.



Damage to Teeth and Gums #: Jaw tension can lead to teeth grinding (bruxia/bruxism) and permanent wear and cracking. Long-term use of amphetamines can result in tooth rot (dental caries) and loss of teeth. [Shaner 2002] Regular amphetamine use can lead to gingivitis (inflammation of the gums). This may be the result of prolonged dry mouth which can cause the gums to become inflamed, worsening oral health. [Hasan 2004].

Frequency: common. Certainty: link established.



Paranoia: Using recreational (higher) doses of amphetamines more than once per day or for several days in a row can cause mild to moderate paranoid ideation in some users. The paranoid thinking can cause lasting problems and the paranoia can sometimes last for days or weeks after use ceases. Regular amphetamine use (and lack of sleep) can cause paranoid, delusional thinking and sometimes auditory and visual hallucinations (usually barely audible or on the periphery of vision). Chronic, high dose use may lead to long term mental health problems. [Nurse's PDR 2005]

Frequency: uncommon. Certainty: some evidence [self reports].



Risky Sex: Euphoria, altered mental state, and altered sense of control at recreational doses can lead to risky sexual behavior. [ Self Reports ]

Frequency: unknown. Certainty: some evidence [self reports].



Dry Mucus Membranes: Dried mucus membranes can lead to bloody noses, painful sinus dryness, and increased likelihood of sinus infections.

Frequency: common. Certainty: link established.



Dry Skin, Picking at the Skin: Regular amphetamine use is associated with a drying of the skin and increased itchyness. Obsessively picking or pulling at the skin (sometimes until it bleeds) is reported in many people after higher dose, frequent use of methamphetamine.

Frequency: unknown. Certainty: some evidence [self reports].



Neurotoxicity (Methamphetamine): At high doses, methamphetamine causes damage to dopamine and serotonin neurons in the brain [Seiden 1976, Thompson 2004]. Long term use may lead to noticeable neurological and behavioral problems. This effect is well documented with methamphetamine in mice and now largely confirmed in humans; behavioral/clinical effects of this damage is not well documented in humans [Hanson 2004].

Frequency: unknown. Certainty: link established in rodents, exact nature unclear in humans.



Neurotoxicity (D/L-Amphetamine): Neurotoxicity with D/L amphetamine (most of what is prescribed as medications) is not as well documented, but at very high doses and frequencies, neurotoxicity does occur in mice and rats. [Jonsson 1982]

Frequency: unknown. Certainty: unknown.



Rhabdomyolysis and Kidney Damage: Breakdown of muscle fibers usually caused by overheating and overstimulation. High-dose use can result in rhabdomyolysis, causing large amounts of proteins to be released into the blood. Urine becomes dark as the rhabdomyolysis increases and the kidneys can suffer mild to severe damage. [Chan 1994, Lan 1998].

Frequency: rare. Certainty: some direct evidence.



Dangerous to combine with other stimulants: Amphetamines used with MDMA appear to cause damage to the dopamine neurons in the brain [Reneman 2002]. Amphetamines combined with other stimulants can substantially increase the risk of dangerous hyperthermia (overheating), rhabdomyolysis (breakdown of muscles), and other related health problems.

Frequency: uncommon. Certainty: clear causation.



Death: Usually resuling from cardiac arrest, stroke, or hyperthermia. Acute renal failure associated with rhabdomyolysis, acidosis, and ischemic renal failure also is associated with methamphetamine fatalities. Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation also reported. [Lan 1998].

No real harm eh?

[420Toaker]

I was reasearching this shit all last night BTW when i finally went to sleep it was 4:30 and i woke at 5:15 so that sucked but o well and i took a 20 toady. but after being on it for 2 days seeing/feeling the effects of it although it is a wonderful little pill that works so weel it seems to me the bad outwieghs the good.

For one i dont know if i keep takeing it if the dosage is right.

2. I have a addictive personality which is prob no so great when taking amphetamines (sp?)

3. This shit makes my appatite go down to ZERO i never had a big appatite as it was now i have none. Since yesterday all i have had is a sandwich, small piece of chicken for dinner, 1 bite of a b/e/c from dunkin dounuts, and only maybe a hand full of french fries.Now my common sense tells me that is deff not very heathy for me. Its wierd its like my stomache wants food but i just cant eat it.

4. i enjoy sleeping regular human hours

im leaning toward not continueing with this i just dont like what i read about amphetamines.