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[siSTARindigo]

FLESH:In a world riven by ignorance, only the atheist refuses to deny the obvious: Religious faith promotes human violence to an astonishing degree. Religion inspires violence in at least two senses: (1) People often kill other human beings because they believe that the creator of the universe wants them to do it (the inevitable psychopathic corollary being that the act will ensure them an eternity of happiness after death). Examples of this sort of behavior are practically innumerable, jihadist suicide bombing being the most prominent. (2) Larger numbers of people are inclined toward religious conflict simply because their religion constitutes the core of their moral identities. One of the enduring pathologies of human culture is the tendency to raise children to fear and demonize other human beings on the basis of religion. Many religious conflicts that seem driven by terrestrial concerns, therefore, are religious in origin. (Just ask the Irish.)

SISTAR:My belief on killing.....I do not believe in capitol punishment ONLY because I don't feel like humans get to make the decision when another dies. People die when they are suppose to. No matter what age.

This whole article is not what I believe, so I am going to stop here. I think I have proven my point. If you'd like me to continue FLESH, just ask

[mont974x4]

lol at least there's plenty for him to read and respond too. That should help carry the discussion further.

[MoonStarer420]

(Do you think the Muslim world hates us because we are a rich capitalist society or because they view us as Christian society?)

Neither, they hate us because were an imperialistic nation who they think (I think we are) are trying to take them over. Not directly, but by destroying their governments and installing ours. Just like we did in South and Central America.

[mont974x4]

Interesting theory. I never thought of giving people the freedom to vote and choose its leaders as imperialistic.

[MoonStarer420]

Interesting theory. I never thought of giving people the freedom to vote and choose its leaders as imperialistic.

Tell that to the South American countries where we helped to assassinate democratically elected leaders. Then we replaced them with puppet dictators that we controlled. Plus we did invade Iraq over WMD's (the original reason, not that we wanted to give them peace) because they were a "threat" to our country.

DO you think we were right to try and invade Cuba? (Well not directly) That was a movement supported by the majority of their people to oust one of our puppets. They're doing a lot better now. They may not have money, but they certainly provide for their people. Unlike our ungrateful basterds in power who will spend a shit load of money on weapons to kill people in other countries instead fixing our failing education system, welfare, social security, and health care.

We need to let countries sort it out for themselves, that way if things go wrong they can only blame themselves and not us. It just perpetuates the chaos. Look at it now! Fucking insane

If we spend money on aid instead of bombs our popularity in the Middle East would sky rocket. Before the huge, recent tsunami, Ben laden had way more support then the U.S. in the Philippians. After the wave and we gave them aid we gained like 30% while he lost it. I canâ??t find a source but I heard it from Bill Clinton when he gave a speech at my school.

It so strange to find people on here who are so different (and ignorant, no offence but its what our country has done, is doing. Besides slavery, imperialism its one of the reasons why we're so powerful.) I have to keep reminding myself that we all have one thing in common: stoned:

[MoonStarer420]

No, I'm ignorant too. Always will be, can't help it, nothing more then a good looking ape with superb verbal skills

[mont974x4]

LMAO Moon, thanks.

[MoonStarer420]

"DO you think we were right to try and invade Cuba? (Well not directly) That was a movement supported by the majority of their people to oust one of our puppets. "

Oops I ment Communist revolution by Castro instead of That.

[mont974x4]

I know that we helped install leaders we thought would be sympathetic to the US. How involved we were I'm not sure. When they turned out to be horrible people wouldn't we have a responsibility to fix it?

We know Saddam had WMD, he even used it on his own people. Where it went? My guess is Syria, but that's only a possibility. Since Saddam was a terrorist and supported terror I view the war in Iraq as part of the war on terror.

I think if we look at how we handle the after war issues throughout our history, I don't think imperialism...in its basic definition...doesn't fit. We haven't just gobbled up land in a to the victor goes the spoils mentality. We've helped the people of those nations rebuild. When they could handle things on their own we've slowly withdrawn our troops. Unless they became allies and allowed us to stage troops there to help defend them from other threats.


I do believe that since we are a strong nation, if we see something wrong and we have the ability to take a stand then we also have a responsibility to take that stand. I think its part of living in a community. If I know me neighbor is abusing his kids and I can help those kids I have a responsibility to do what I can....even if it brings risks to myself.



LOL wow we really got off topic. Sorry.

[Shelbay]

Even more off topic..Thanks for being the kind of person that DOES get involved when kids are being abused!! Most people turn their heads...so thank you for caring enough if it did happen YOU would get involved.:thumbsup: